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December 16th, 2015, 5:21 am #21

andyk2003 wrote:Badass did mine as well - I felt really comfortable with him doing it as his soldering & modding skills look extremely good in his videos.
I watched a few of his videos as well. It looked pretty good. Did you get yours back already?
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December 16th, 2015, 8:49 am #22

So here is a question from me ..
I own a import-converter that can appearently play import games on any N64 console

It works fine, but the problem is that the image itself of the japanese/NTSC games are black in white. PAL games are perfect in color. (but changes per system the japanese console can play NTSC/JAP games fine, but only PAL in black and white)

Would this UltraHDMI fix it?
https://www.consolevariations.com/
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December 16th, 2015, 11:19 am #23

Mine should be with me in a week or so. I wanted to do a review here but my wife & I have made a pact - we're giving up forums, Facebook etc. to try and crawl back some of our lives from the internet!

I think it's safe to say the UltraHDMI is going to be very good & a probably no brainer for dedicated N64 enthusiasts without a CRT - hugely better than a standard connection. It's CRTs all the way for me though - just feels more authentic to me, and I just love that CRT glow!

RetroRGB did a nice piece here. The retro mode's hybrid scalines look amazing.

Most of my time on here has been on my CRT research thread & I'm at the end of my journey with that.

Anyway so long guys, and thanks for having me :)
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December 17th, 2015, 2:49 pm #24

out of stock. too bad they dont sell 'em seperately. shipping charge is simply too insane and would cost as much as the mode itself back and forth.
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December 17th, 2015, 6:05 pm #25

Is there an installation guide anywhere on the net? Wanna see how tricky this would be.
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December 17th, 2015, 6:57 pm #26

Guys DON'T buy any kind of HDMI output system in order to play N64.
The quality is still to low.
We have to wait years before the quality wil be comparable to CRT visuals.

If there is a way to underestimate N64 graphics is play N64 games in HD TV.
No matter how much the output is good, the quality will be poor.

Much better spend your time and money in a RBG N64 with a good CRT like Sony Trinitron or Panasonic Quintrix.
If you play N64 games on a good CRT you will be still amazed by the best N64 graphics.





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December 18th, 2015, 4:28 am #27

italia64 wrote:Guys DON'T buy any kind of HDMI output system in order to play N64.
The quality is still to low.
We have to wait years before the quality wil be comparable to CRT visuals.
There is some give and take with this. After watching RGB205's review of the ultra hdmi "cut to 17:18 where they talk about ultra hdmi versus CRT" from what I saw the difference wasn't much. Although the comparison they are showing I'm only viewing it on my HD TV and not seeing it next to a good CRT. It could look better on a pro CRT. My thing is, I'm not going to get a CRT, professional or not. They are just too large and heavy. A pro CRT will be well over the cost of this mod just for the TV. The cheapest routes are the TV's you mentioned. After you factor in the RGB mod install and cable you're looking at the same cost but now you have to play on "that" tv. I'm lazy but neat so I rather just have one TV for everything. It's really just for convenience. If it only helps me read some text I couldn't before playing Mario Party on my 60"' then that's good enough for me.
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December 18th, 2015, 12:16 pm #28

See the difference between HDMI and a CRT in a YouTube video is impossible.
In that YouTube video you can't see the authentic CRT quality, but the CRT quality recorded, which is very different as it loses colours, luminosity and there is the flickering.

Believe me guys, compare with your eyes using the N64 RGB modified and connect it to a Sony Trinitron 27"/29".
There is absolutely no match, CRT is by far superior for now.

I'm waiting the day when CRT quality will be reached in HD TVs, but the day unfortunately is not arrived yet.

It's impossible understand the N64 graphics superiority in HD TVs.
I always repeat this because many people judge N64 graphics with the wrong bases in this way.

As we know a photo of a CRT loses a lot of quality, but please try to image these two pics with more quality, as they has in reality.

This is a NTSC N64 set-up of an Italian friend of mine, Cristiano Trotta. RGB + 29" Sony Trinitron


This is another RGB set-up of another Italian friends of mine, Alessandro Simoncini. This time a PAL RGB modified console.



Don't belive these videos guys. Use your eyes in real CRTs.
Understand the N64 difference between other console is impossible in HD TVs, I repeat this mantra.
If you use HD TVs, even with the best modern outputs, it's just a merely compromise.

PS Gamerjerome, this isn't a post against your, as a N64 lover I just advice people to play it in the best possible way :-P
But I understand the convenience fact.
A small sample of CRT quality, recorded by me.
Watch the video on 1080p and remember, on live, without flickering and with better quality, is another thing.

https://youtu.be/EF0UA3jWPq8





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December 18th, 2015, 1:28 pm #29

unless usesr have it in hands, we should refrain from any kind of pro/con debate as it's pointless to do that from youtube videos has we all see it differently depending on what device we see it and our eyes are way different between each others.

you like it ? good for you ! you don't ? good for you too.
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December 18th, 2015, 1:47 pm #30

The fact is more objective than this as the HDMI quality is surely more checkable in a YouTube video than a CRT quality.

CRT quality is much better, objectively much better.

Yes, of course, everybody can do what they want. But it's a duty of N64 forum's experts to be persuaded by this inconfutabile truth.

I often specificate this fact in order to let people informed by the fact that N64 graphics can be better than that, as they're spending money in HDMI output.
If they want to buy them I have no problem.

But I love to see the real N64 graphics.

Yes, HDMI are a good compromise. Not the best choice fot sure.





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