N64 mini Predictions

ItalianBaptist
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6:11 PM - Oct 12, 2017 #1

So I looked for an n64 mini thread to put this in but I couldn't find one. Feel free to move this if you need to. I think the direction this topic would be going though merits its own thread.

With the success of the NES and SNES minis and an apparent trademark application for the N64 controller, the possibility of an N64 mini in 2018 is pretty big. I know we all have a list of games we want to see on the console. But more often than not, there's a big difference between what we want and what we expect will actually be on the console.

I'd like to see your predictions of what we will see on the N64 mini, and then when it comes out we can compare for fun :dance:

For my list I chose 20 games with a "secret 21st" just like on the SNES mini. I don't think there will be more than that. Most of my choices come from games we have already seen on the Wii and Wii U Virtual Consoles, but a couple come from third parties that have supported the NES and SNES. I'm also dividing my list into categories based on reasoning from the other two console's rosters.

NINTENDO'S SINGLE-PLAYER GAMES
Super Mario 64
Paper Mario
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Master Quest unlocked after getting to a certain point in the original)
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Yoshi's Story
Star Fox 64
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
Pokemon Snap

NINTENDO'S MULTIPLAYER GAMES
Super Smash Bros.
Mario Kart 64
Mario Party 2
Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
1080 Snowboarding
Wave Race 64
F-Zero X
Pokemon Puzzle League (NA only, not sure what J game would replace it)

THIRD-PARTY GAMES
Bomberman 64
Ogre Battle 64
Harvest Moon 64

That's my list of 20 (+1) games for the console. I do have some honorable mentions that could potentially be interchanged for the ones on top, but they're not as likely to me.

Sin and Punishment
Excitebike 64
Mega Man 64
F-Zero X Expansion Kit
Hybrid Heaven
Mario Party 3

To clarify, I unfortunately didn't include any of the Rare games which is a shame but we've got Rare Replay for those. Also no Goldeneye because of the licensing hurdles, and as much as I would love to include the Pokemon Stadium games, I don't see them happening. I did think about including some of the minigames as unlockable bits, though, especially Sushi-Go-Round and Rock Harden.

I did want to talk about one more thing that might be controversial - I know I mentioned it in a previous thread so some of you might see where this is going. Instead of a replica of the N64 controller that attaches via Wii Remote connector, I'm really leaning towards including one or two Gamecube controllers styled after the 64, gray with a blue A button and a green B button.

There are a couple of issues with replicating the trident style that this would solve. Both the NES and SNES controllers have been perfect replicas apart from the connector. With the N64 controller we have the analog stick issue to worry about. If they used the original design, people would complain about the sticks wearing down over time like the originals. If they went with a Lodgenet style stick, people might complain that it wasn't authentic.

With Gamecube controllers we'd have a very comfortable style controller that already feels natural with the N64 games on the Wii's virtual console. Also the connectors would be circular so they wouldn't look out of place on the front of the system's chassis and we hopefully wouldn't have an issue with plug covers like the SNES mini. In addition, Nintendo could sell the controllers individually to get started for the inevitable Smash Bros. on the Switch since the community refuses to let go.

So these are my thoughts - I can't wait to hear y'alls. :n64: forever!

Edit: switched Ogre Battle and Mega Man 64; honestly it could go either way with the third parties...and that’s not even counting Rare games
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6:30 PM - Oct 12, 2017 #2

There is an N64 mini thread somewhere around here because I remember posting in it. Although I personally wouldn't buy one no matter what.

I bet Japan gets Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon and America doesn't just like the Super Famicom mini. Heck Japan got Tetris Attack too and America didn't, so actually Pokemon Puzzle League seems more likely for Japan, probably both regions. And I promise Hybrid Heaven has no chance in hell, it's no classic and Konami hasn't ever acknowledged it since.

You know what game the Japanese version might get and would be really cool to see? Mysterious Dungeon Shiren the Wanderer 2. That game was originally going to be released on Wii virtual console I believe, but they remade the first game on Nintendo DS instead. And I believe the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games are still a thing between Nintendo and Spike Chunsoft. Nintendo helped with Shiren 2 with several programmers and art assistants working on it to help Chunsoft, and even Creatures and HAL Labrotory are thanked in the credits, so Nintendo definitely did their fare share in the game too despite it being 3rd party.

The game was popular as hell too. It was one of the highest rated games in Famitsu that year and highest selling game it's launch week for any console, and give or take sold around 283,991 copies, which is the 24th best selling Japanese game, and 2nd best selling Japanese exclusive (just behind Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 6). It's Japans most classic RPG behind Paper Mario, so I can see it finally coming back to give the thing 1 more RPG because the Snes mini had like 6.


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6:37 PM - Oct 12, 2017 #3

@Shellshocker18: Y u no buy N64 mini? Is it because you already have the cartridges? I do get that but I'm probably still going to get one anyway.

Also, I still find it shocking that Japan hasn't gotten Pokemon Puzzle League in any form. It never came out for Wii VC over there either. I forgot about the Goemon games though. And that Mystery Dungeon game sounds like a cool alternative too :)
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6:55 PM - Oct 12, 2017 #4

20.... That's hard man...

From my memories and location, my expectations would be:

- Super Mario 64
- Mario Kart 64
- The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time (And I as well think that Master Quest will be the "surprise" release)
- Star Fox 64 / Lylatwars
- Super Smash Brothers
- Yoshi's Story
- Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
- Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
- Castlevania
- Mario Party
- Mario Tennis
- Mario Golf
- Pilotwings 64
- F-Zero X
- 1080 Snowboarding
- Blast Corps
- Bomberman 64
- Cruis'n USA
- International Superstar Soccer
- Hybrid Heaven

Again, this is based on my memory of what was popular/sold well around here in Europe at the time, and not necessarily my personal favorites.

Games, although licensed, definitely not impossible for release:
- Donkey Kong 64 (I mean, they did release DKC for SNES Mini)
- Goldenye (see DK64)
- Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
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7:53 PM - Oct 12, 2017 #5

Since I already own all the N64 games I ever wanted, I'm really not that interested in the N64 Mini's software lineup but rather its hardware choices instead. I'm curious if Nintendo will again use an Allwinner processor and if so, will it also be powerful enough to run GameCube software too.

With respect to the N64's Mini's controller, I'd like exact replicas of the original with either a Wii connector, USB interface or GameCube plug. Any one of those three would be fine by me. :D
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11:59 AM - Oct 13, 2017 #6

Not so much a prediction, but a wish. I'd like to see a controller with two joysticks that can act as player 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 for games that support that (GoldenEye and PD). Inauthentic, but it would make those games more appealing by making them a bit more modern. Also, if they do drop the trident, I'd at least hope they do 2 Z buttons like on the Hori MiniPad.
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7:41 PM - Oct 15, 2017 #7

Every single Mario game released for the system + Star Fox, OOT and MM, Smash, F-ZERO and Kirby, as well as some misc. titles like Pilotwings

It will be completely lame without Rare games,TBH



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1:37 PM - Oct 17, 2017 #8

The controllers for me too are the most exciting part. And wondering if there'd be an adapter for the N64 Classic Controller to be used on the original hardware. Anyone done this for the NES or SNES yet?

As hard as all this has been to find, I don't anticipate this being an EASY option to get a new N64 controller. BUT if there were some hardware revisions inside the controller to make the thumbstick more durable, it would be worth the quest to have a controller that wasn't sand running through the hourglass every moment you used it.

For the games, I could almost see Nintendo striking a deal with Rare/MS on something like this. Unlike virtual console where you'd probably licence the game(s) for X number of years or months at whatever cost per download ... you can forecast that, but it's a moving target.

Here, you know exactly how many units you will produce. It's pretty safe to say you'll tell them all through. If they can agree to a set one time royalty, you can do one clean cut deal and go your separate ways. I think there's a CHANCE Rare games could make an appearance.
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2:27 AM - Oct 18, 2017 #9

@kartmaster: Your argument for the rare games does make sense. One of the reasons I started this thread was to see if I could make a compelling list of 20ish games for the system without including anything from Rare. But I probably want to make a second list with the Rare games.

What to replace? It depends on the number of Rare games we’d be getting, but probably MegaMan, Harvest Moon, or Kirby would be pretty likely candidates. Also maybe Pokémon Puzzle League - Nintendo didn’t seem to eager to get it to us on the Wii U and I have to wonder if there’s licensing issues with 4kids which may be why Japan still hasn’t gotten it.

I don’t see any M-rated games making it to the mini so Conker and Perfect Dark are out. Which is a real shame as Perfect Dark would be easier to license than Goldeneye and more than fills the void in my opinion. The most likely I could see would be Banjo Kazooie, followed by DK64, then Blast Corps and Tooie, and then Diddy Kong Racing (only because of Conker’s presence). Not sure about Jet Force Gemini - thinking it might be a bit of a stretch.
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4:46 AM - Oct 18, 2017 #10

I'd say Blast Corps is a stretch. As far as I remember that game was made by DMA (now known as Rockstar) and not so much Rare.
It's a fun game, but I don't see it happening.

Other than that, I wish they put Kirby in there. Would be the biggest reason to buy it. Same goes for Mario Party 3 insted of 2, as 3 is more expensive.
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