Vekoma64
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December 6th, 2012, 11:30 pm #21

I know my Japanese smoke machine is set up with my DD and it is the main console I use for NTSC A/J...I must have the best picture quality..and now I need to know! :P
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bluedogrulez
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December 7th, 2012, 1:34 am #22

@finngamer: thanks for testing your many consoles! Looks like all serial #s beginning 16 are the good PAL consoles (except ice blue **scratches head***)

Dumb question time: Finn, do all of your consoles have the same model #? I'm guessing yes, but curious nevertheless....
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December 7th, 2012, 3:24 am #23

So these tests have been conducted with a standard composite cable, huh? If testing was done with a SCART I might be tempted to conclude that the Funtastic models possibly support RGB. That might also explain why no one with an NTSC model ever noticed.

What I'd probably do next is open up a standard charcoal N64 and read the numbers off of the Graphics Processing Unit and then do the same thing on a Funtastic which outputs the sharper image. I say this because the GPU is probably the component most responsible for the variance in picture quality. It might be easier to find a common GPU that is the source of the crisper image than determining commonality by the serial numbers on the case.

As I'm sleep deprived this might be a completely ridiculous hypothesis so please take it with a grain of salt. :blink:
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December 7th, 2012, 9:46 am #24

the ice blue model is by far the most common funtastic PAL model.
Maybe they were used to get rid of all the old boards?
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December 7th, 2012, 2:47 pm #25

Thanks, finngamer!

Here is something... http://forums.modretro.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1417
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December 7th, 2012, 2:57 pm #26

At the request of MegaMania, the first post has been updated to reflect the collective findings to date. My hope is that we continue this research in all regions and eventually have a comprehensive list. :yeah:
Mega Mania wrote:Here is something... http://forums.modretro.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1417
WOW, so there were a ton of different [EDIT] motherboard revisions! Wonder if there is anyway to correlate the board version with (1) output quality, (2) serial number or (3) Model number.

MegaMania and Finngamer, can you guys add the model numbers to the serial numbers you already provided?

EDIT: :facepalm: Got chip number confused with Model number. Sorry for any confusion.
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December 7th, 2012, 5:53 pm #27

Mega Mania wrote:Here is something... http://forums.modretro.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1417
Is Link83 a member on this forum? If not he should be. This guy has done an incredible amount of research in to the N64 motherboard and its components. Here on Nintendo 64 Forever we strive to have only the best and brightest minds providing information to the N64 cognoscenti and Link83 certainly meets that criteria.
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December 7th, 2012, 6:15 pm #28

Amen, Grizz.

Leap of Faith: I've order a NTSC console with a serial number beginning with "28" which should have a CPU-8 or 8.1 in there. That version appears to have the same specs as the later model PAL console, including the RDRAM36 (as opposed to RDRAM18) inside. Fingers crossed this provides some NTSC answers.
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December 7th, 2012, 11:43 pm #29

What type of cable are you going to use, bluedog? Composite or S-Video?

This is a pretty important topic for our community as it speaks to the biggest hurdle facing the N64 going forward, and that is finding a way to keep the actual console playable in the era of Hi-Def television sets.
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December 8th, 2012, 12:47 am #30

I have an s-cable that i bought for like $6 shipped from amazon that was a noticeable improvement on my old tube TV. But i could not get photo proof unfortunately.
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