R3dfi3lD
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5:49 PM - Dec 05, 2012 #11

It seems like a composite vs a s-video. :huh:
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6:05 PM - Dec 05, 2012 #12

R3dfi3lD wrote:It seems like a composite vs a s-video. :huh:
I tested both same composite cable (I don't have S-video cable) and is not used in the Expansion Pak (using Jumper Pak, both same yes).
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9:42 PM - Dec 05, 2012 #13

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3:11 AM - Dec 06, 2012 #14

Thanks TheGT550, but all credit goes to Mega Mania. I am but your humble (unqualified) interpreter, lol.
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11:02 AM - Dec 06, 2012 #15

Like I've discussed with Mega Mania on a finnish forum, I actually noticed this years ago with tests done on two regular consoles and two funtastic consoles. It's absolute fact, that the funtastic ones look better, all the murkiness of the graphics is gone. The pictures above don't necessarily do it justice, the picture is better full stop.

I've been meaning to do a bigger test with all my consoles for a long time, but have been postponing it, and couldn't have gone "public" with the info. :) It's funny, no one didn't seem to know this. And even Nintendo did not advertise this when the consoles came out, which is crazy considering how clear the difference is. It's natural for a console manufacturer change the components inside the machine when time goes by, but this is the biggest improvement that any console has gone through, and all without changing the video cable.


When I first talked about this in Finland someone said that their funtastic didn't show any improvement. Assuming he saw correctly, it's possible all funtastics did not have the same innards. Maybe Nintendo still used up the old parts with the first funtastics?

I now have all my consoles taken out of their boxes, hopefully I'll soon have the time to test out every color, marking down any differences tied down to their serial number. This should give a good overview on when the superior video started.

I can only talk about European consoles though, hopefully someone in North America can do the same with their full funtastic set.
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11:50 AM - Dec 06, 2012 #16

Interesting. Funny how even after 10 years we are learning new things about the n64.

I finally plugged in both a PAL and NTSC n64 console with blast corps in both and flicked through each to see the differences and it is quite striking how much better the NTSC one looks. If there are differences even within PAL n64's i'd love to know if there is a way of identifying the better models (assuming it is true not all funtastic units are better).
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7:28 PM - Dec 06, 2012 #17

USA-console has a 9-serial numbers and start NS, in Japan NUJ and in Europe NUP. Japan and Europe 8-serial numbers.

First pic: USA console
Second pic: Japan console


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9:19 PM - Dec 06, 2012 #18

And done. Not quite conclusive, but still some nice data.

I tested all my 12 PAL consoles with Goldeneye. Here are the colors, serials and picture qualities:


Charcoal, NUP10414657, bad
Charcoal, NUP13881647, bad
Pokemon, NUP15742019, bad
Grape Purple, NUP16060024, good
Jungle Green, NUP16085491, good
Smoke Black, NUP16122646, good
Ice Blue, NUP16143699, bad
Jungle Green, NUP16237979, good
Watermelon Red, NUP16315707, good
Fire Orange, NUP16339442, good
Clear Blue, NUP16748999, good
Pikachu, NUP16476127, good


Clearly the vast majority of Funtastics have the better innards, but that pesky Ice Blue there in the middle denies us clear data. There may not be any rule which consoles have the better output, but at least it would take really bad luck to get one if you get a Funtastic.

Still, it was nice to see that the newer consoles also had better output, as in Clear Blue and Pikachu. Does anyone know how long the regular Charcoal was in production, was it sold alongside the Funtastics or did they replace the older colors altogether?


Reminder, so far this applies only to PAL consoles, I don't have sufficient JAP or USA consoles to make good tests.
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10:10 PM - Dec 06, 2012 #19

Also might bw worth checking if it is true in other regions too. Knowing my luck, the australian consoles all got the crappy innards.

My n64 is see-through green (I got it 2nd hand after my original grey one finally died) - i'm guessing that is a jungle green one? I'm pretty clueless with n64 hardware.
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10:17 PM - Dec 06, 2012 #20

I would really like to get some info for US serial numbers, looks like I need to buy one!
I currently own humble, but nice collections of NTSC-U; NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii

Currently taking a break from a 2012 collecting binge.
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