Counterfeit N64 Carts on eBay?!?

bluedogrulez
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September 8th, 2017, 5:09 pm #1

I'll admit that I have somehow shaken the habit of stalking eBay for games on a daily basis. eBay recently dropped from my Google frequent sites list, which is really saying something.

Anyway, I went on eBay today to score a physical copy of a Switch game when I noticed vendors offering classic N64 games for under $30, one of them being Conkers Bad Fur Day. Upon further inspection, there were several listings for "new" loose N64 titles at a severe discount from the prices we know them to be. And sure enough, the larger sellers were located in Hong Kong and other Asian locations not exactly known for OEM products.

A Mario Kart 64 listing used a picture of a cart with a worn label. Nice touch.

I had seen this about 6 months ago with some high-profile SNES games. I was wondering what some of my SNES classics that are merely shelf candy might go for on the open market. Left unsure given that fakes were selling for 50% or less of the true value.

This is a really bad development for us collectors. And likely gamers too, as I can only image the quality of the ROMs contained within.

What do you think about this development? How do you spot counterfeits? Every one of course is entitled to their opinions, but PLEASE do not post links to eBay pages featuring these sales.
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sanni
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September 8th, 2017, 5:32 pm #2

Well let's get the obvious drawback out of the way first. Original games use maskroms, they will last you forever. The repros use flashroms which have a typical data retention of about 20-30 years. After which they need to be reflashed.

Now to the positive side: You can actually reflash those repros with other games, even with unreleased ones or rom hacks. So that gives you a cheap alternative to buying an Everdrive. But it's also way way more complicated.

The build quality of the electronics inside is really nice, it's actually a very good product. But it looks very different from an original pcb.

For collectors this means that you need to check the pcb the next time you buy game in a Gamestop store or similar because it could be a reproduction. Basicly the same situation we had with NES and SNES for years.


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Rocky
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September 8th, 2017, 7:14 pm #3

Hmm if only there was a special guide that could help spot fakes.... :P

http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Fo ... 7464768/1/
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Milage007
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September 9th, 2017, 7:16 am #4

I don't like the idea of these fakes going into the wild. Everdrive etc I am fine with. But yeah I think all this means is people need to exercise caution, use the guide if necessary, when buying. Fortunately, it is so :cussfit: obvious, certainly to the trained eye, what a fake is.

I think this is a good opportunity to promote the thread above and make sure everybody here is aware.



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September 9th, 2017, 2:03 pm #5

bluedogrulez wrote:Anyway, I went on eBay today to score a physical copy of a Switch game when I noticed vendors offering classic N64 games for under $30, one of them being Conkers Bad Fur Day. Upon further inspection, there were several listings for "new" loose N64 titles at a severe discount from the prices we know them to be. And sure enough, the larger sellers were located in Hong Kong and other Asian locations not exactly known for OEM products.
First thought that popped in to my head, how long until Switch counterfeit games appear of eBay? :huh:
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Cabanon
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September 9th, 2017, 6:24 pm #6

that's what happen when people ask stupid amount of money for a video game, counterfeit comes in and people can finally enjoy/try the game at decent price.

real or not, someone who want to play will pick the cheapest solution, unless he's a collector.

I'd be the first to buy one of these repro for a game I want to play, like CFB.
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September 9th, 2017, 9:44 pm #7

Most of the repros are of very poor quality, and won't last long, assuming they work at all.

Another recent trend is people selling a game with a different board inside; I've seen a case where someone bought Goldeneye and it had Madden 99 inside.

As for Switch carts, the chemical on them that you can taste will probably be hard to replicate safely.
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September 10th, 2017, 1:06 pm #8

Cabanon wrote:that's what happen when people ask stupid amount of money for a video game, counterfeit comes in and people can finally enjoy/try the game at decent price.
Isn't it ironic that eBay video game scalpers may have ultimately :pottymouth: themselves in the foot by being so greedy. :lol:
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September 28th, 2017, 7:00 pm #9

I think it`s terrible, now when i buy games off ebay i must check if the game is authentic, so many fake games and boxes. I think Ebay should ban these sellers forever.
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monkeyjim100
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October 10th, 2017, 3:43 pm #10

Just noticed a seller on eBay wither at least 6 pretty rare games that are complete but look almost immaculate ! Either this person has really looked after their games for 20 years or something funny is going on. Be on the look out my collecting chums.
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