sinisterSS
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2:58 PM - Jan 18, 2014 #21

floorcat wrote:
sinisterSS wrote:I tried my 24" Sony Playstation 3D Display(it does 2D also) again it wouldn't work
Sinister, what did you use to connect the N64 to the PS 3D display? It only has component and HDMI inputs, and happens to be the TV I've got my N64 & SNES hooked up to (and both work fine, though missing those forlorn CRT scanlines).
I used the audio/video cable that comes with the N64, is there another way I'm over looking?
N64 collection:

3 N64's CIB: N64 Original release 1996
Atomic Purple Controller N64 bundle 1998 release
Star Wars Racer Bundle N64 set 1999 release

24 N64 games all CIB
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4:01 PM - Jan 18, 2014 #22

Errrm... N64 only came with composite cables, which aren't the same as component cables. The PS 3D Display has component inputs (five RCA inputs: red/green/blue video, and red/white for audio). The N64 composite cables will have only 3 RCA connectors (yellow video and red/white audio). Only the 2 audio connectors may be compatible... the video is definitely not compatible, which is likely why you're not able to get it to work on your TV. You would need some sort of composite/s-video to component/HDMI adapter to get it to work.

This is how mine is set up, but again, the picture quality isn't as good as a regular old CRT.
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4:55 PM - Jan 18, 2014 #23

Blinkshot wrote:We should invent some way of upscaling the resolution, etc.
marshall on assemblergames is working on this alto it's VGA, not hdmi. http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=43034
OzOne on assemblergames seems to be in the good way via HDMI http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/sh ... onsoles%29

now, there is 2 solutions

1. get a CRT
2. buy am amplifier. there's 2 types, one that upscale and one that doesnt. mine dont upscale (Yamaha RX-V463, you need a RX-V663 and up to have the upscaler option, there's also a lag adjuster included) and it's pretty good but it might just be my TV (Panasonic TC-P50S2). that said, it requires alot more money but on the good side, you can now enjoy surround sound of your favorite console :)

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6:20 PM - Jan 18, 2014 #24

Get a CRT (cheapest, and best for Retro Gaming is the Sony Triniton IMO), if you must have a HD TV use a FRAMEMEISTER or something, although they can be expensive and require importing
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8:21 PM - Jan 18, 2014 #25

I use this cheap solution when I need to connect the n64 to an hdmi

It costs around 40$

The best option would be definitely getting a broadcast crt monitor (sony pvm), then a sony trinitron & then a bang & olufsen mx4000 or mx6000. I'd go for the b&o before the trinitron only because it has a nicer design & doesn't look that dated nowadays.
I'm still looking for a cheap pvm, though, & thinking in getting a b&o. Crts look so much better than upscaling to hd.

If anyone is interested in pics of the converter to hdmi "in use" just ask!
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9:20 PM - Jan 18, 2014 #26

danikei wrote:I use this cheap solution when I need to connect the n64 to an hdmi

It costs around 40$

The best option would be definitely getting a broadcast crt monitor (sony pvm), then a sony trinitron & then a bang & olufsen mx4000 or mx6000. I'd go for the b&o before the trinitron only because it has a nicer design & doesn't look that dated nowadays.
I'm still looking for a cheap pvm, though, & thinking in getting a b&o. Crts look so much better than upscaling to hd.

If anyone is interested in pics of the converter to hdmi "in use" just ask!
Does the converter up-scale?

Yeah, PVM is better than a trinitron, but I always just recommend a Trinitron just because they're alot easier to get ahold of (Not sure if America has something similar, but if they do check your local charity shops etc), you can get one for around £5 or so, where a PVM runs about £70 for the least, and if you want a perfect one at least £200 or so
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4:55 AM - Jan 19, 2014 #27

I think this is basically the same thing as what danikei posted (someone correct me if I'm wrong), except it also supports s-video. I'm considering giving it a try if my plasma does a poor job with the n64's s-video signal.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id= ... escription
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5:38 AM - Jan 19, 2014 #28

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Grizzmeister wrote:I've always thought that we should petition one of the large television manufacturers to produce an HDTV with a built-in upscaler for legacy consoles like the N64. What do you guys think?
I think it's more likely that a couple of guys are gonna come together, invent and patent such a product and sell it on an order-by-order basis to the collector market.

Then again, if the big corps see a potential profit to turn from it, they may give it a go.
I very much doubt this is something the TV manufacturers would care about. They only need to sell products going forward...
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12:17 PM - Jan 19, 2014 #29

Matt wrote:Does the converter up-scale?
Yeah, it does let you change between a few resolutions, although for me the "best" - not really that good- way is to upscale it to something like 1024x768 and let the tv/monitor do the rest. N64's native 320x240/640x480? doesn't do that well.
YogurtStorm wrote:I think it's more likely that a couple of guys are gonna come together, invent and patent such a product and sell it on an order-by-order basis to the collector market.
You could always buy a XRGB Mini - Framemeister , it does a good job (much better than my converter) and many people in retrogaming are getting them. Its a bit expensive though (200-300$ with shipping/customs)



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2:22 AM - Jan 20, 2014 #30

danikei wrote:You could always buy a XRGB Mini - Framemeister , it does a good job (much better than my converter) and many people in retrogaming are getting them. Its a bit expensive though (200-300$ with shipping/customs)
Yeah, picking up a Framemeister, or some other video processor that scales s-video/RGB well, would be the best way to get it to look good. Does anyone here own a Framemeister that uses the N64 on it? You don't see a lot of people using these things for the N64. Would be nice to hear some thoughts.

Anyway, it's a shame TV's have now dropped the s-video input. I used to own a Samsung plasma that had an s-video port. The N64 looked decent enough on it. Sadly, my newer Panasonic plasma does not have s-video, so composite is my only choice with the N64. Thankfully, the Panny accepts 240p over component very well, so I can use scart converters for other systems. With the N64, I just choose to play it on a 27" Sony CRT 8)
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