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January 23rd, 2018, 4:13 am #11

Not sure about the ability to produce music using the words Smiths, I think legal action would be inevitable! Putting part of the letter S on a note is one thing, calling the band Classically Smiths is quite another!

I hope there has been a big misunderstanding about Rourke, as it seems heartless to link him to another musical project while is still mourning the loss of his current band member, Dolores o’Riordan who died working on the next album. This sad news still needs time to be digested before future plans are made or announced, it was unfair to link him to the project during a time of grieving!

So, we await a definitive lineup, Until that is finalised I think I’ll be content to wait and see before committing to tickets, good luck to anyone who is bolder or even possibly rasher than I am, and snags themselves a good ticket on Friday!
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January 23rd, 2018, 3:43 pm #12

And now Mike Joyce has pulled out.... :O

https://pitchfork.com/news/classically- ... l_facebook



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Statement from Mike Joyce with reference to Classically Smiths . It is with much regret that I have to announce that I will not be taking part in the show (s) Classically Smiths. I entered into agreement in good faith to perform these shows with Andy Rourke and Craig Gannon. Unfortunately it became apparent very late that Andy would not be taking part. I agreed with Andy that I would take part in the press conference and inform people that he would not be taking part. Unfortunately on the morning of the press conference I was informed I would not be able to say this. I therefore agreed to take part in the press interviews but did so without discussing Andy’s participation in the venture at any point during all tv, radio and print interviews. After much deliberation and soul searching I have decided that without Andy, an integral part of why I agreed to take part in the first place, I have come to this difficult decision. I still believe the shows and concept to be a fantastic idea and wish them all the success they deserve.
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January 23rd, 2018, 6:00 pm #13

Hmmm, trouble at t’ mill! ...the more suspicious of us would wonder if Johnny got in touch with Andy and suggested it would be the final nail in The Smiths coffin! What happened and why may never come out, but it is fair to say something happened that changed everything!

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January 23rd, 2018, 6:20 pm #14

Hahaha!! I knew it! If Mike, Andy and Craig want to perform The Smiths stuff then they should do it as a trio. I would certainly see it.
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January 23rd, 2018, 10:07 pm #15

.... and now it's cancelled?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... e-14192902


Classically Smiths gigs cancelled as Mike Joyce pulls out hours after Andy Rourke denies involvement
Just a day after the Classically Smiths concerts were confirmed, Andy Rourke claimed he was never involved and now drummer Mike Joyce has pulled out



Mike Joyce and Craig Gannon had joined Manchester Camerata CEO Bob Riley at the launch for Classically Smiths on Monday (Image: Manchester Evening News)

A string of classical concerts celebrating the music of legendary Manchester band The Smiths have been pulled just a day after they were announced - as two out of the three former Smiths stars said to be reuniting for the project are no longer involved.

The Classically Smiths shows had been launched to the media on Monday morning with original Smiths drummer Mike Joyce, bassist Andy Rourke and second guitarist Craig Gannon all said to be joining forces with the Manchester Camerata for the concerts this summer.

Quotes from all three were provided in a press release, with all saying how excited they were to take part in the shows, which would “reimagine” a host of classic Smiths tracks with the orchestra at shows, opening at the 02 Apollo in Manchester in June.

But on Monday night Andy denied he had ever signed up to the shows and that the quotes were “fabricated” - and now drummer Mike Joyce has confirmed he is pulling out.

Organisers Bad Productions have now confirmed that the shows will no longer be taking place.

Andy said: “At no time did I give my consent for anyone in connection with this Classically Smiths project to act on my behalf or my name, and nothing was ever confirmed, approved or contracted by me or my team.”
Mike posted a statement to his social media accounts on Tuesday afternoon saying: “It is with much regret that I have to announce that I will not be taking part in the show(s) Classically Smiths. I entered into agreement in good faith to perform these shows with Andy Rourke and Craig Gannon.

“Unfortunately it became apparent very late that Andy would not be taking part. I agreed with Andy that I would take part in the press conference and inform people that he would not be taking part. Unfortunately on the morning of the press conference I was informed I would not be able to say this.

“I therefore agreed to take part in the press interviews but did so without discussing Andy’s participation in the venture at any point during all tv, radio and print interviews.

“After much deliberation and soul searching I have decided that without Andy, an integral part of why I agreed to take part in the first place, I have come to this difficult decision.

"I still believe the shows and concept to be a fantastic idea and wish them all the success they deserve.”

The MEN spoke to Mike Joyce and Craig Gannon at the media launch for the shows on Monday at Salford Quays.


Former Smiths members Mike Joyce and Craig Gannon at the launch of Classically Smiths on Monday (Image: Manchester Evening News)

When we asked where Andy was we were told: "New York".

Both had spoken of how excited they were to take part in the project - and said that they had already started rehearsing a number of classic Smiths tracks including There is a Light That Never Goes Out, I Know It’s Over, Panic and How Soon is Now? in preparation for the show.

Mike confirmed that Smiths frontman Morrissey and guitarist Johnny Marr had not been involved in the Classically Smiths project.

He said: “I think from what I've gleaned from what Johnny and Morrissey have said in the past the idea of a Smiths reunion just does not seem like a good idea, and I tend to agree with them.

“I think it was then, The Smiths were then, the four of us, and that was the early 80s, that’s catalogued, we recorded, we played great gigs, but this is something completely different.”

The Smiths formed in Manchester in 1982 with frontman Morrissey, guitarist Johnny Marr, bassist Andy Rourke and drummer Mike Joyce - Craig Gannon joined in 1986 and became known as the "fifth member" of the band.

Their music recorded during their five years together made them one of the most influential bands of modern times.

Organisers Bad Productions have confirmed that the Classically Smiths shows will no longer be taking place.


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