Rotary powered Brumby

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Rotary powered Brumby

niterida
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29 Apr 2011, 16:27 #1

Well my twin-engined powered Brumby has been put on the backburner while I build a 13B Turbo powered AWD Brumby instead.

The plan is to run complete Liberty / Impreza running gear - bakes, suspension, crossmembers, diff, gearbox etc bolted up to a 13B turbo rotary.

I know of 3 other rotary powered Subies in the world - a WRX in Japan, a Brumby in the US but afaik with Brumby running gear and a Leone here in aus running a WRX box but Leone everything else. So with a bit of luck this will be the only one of its kind.

I bought the Brumby as a rolling shell for AUD$200, a complete 13B turbo with wiring loom, ECU, front mount intercooler etc and 5 speed box for $750 (should be able to sell the box for $250) and about to pick up a Liberty with a blown motor for $500. So $1200 so far and I have most of what I need :-)
Now all I have to do is put it all together.......



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Scoobydo
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29 Apr 2011, 20:06 #2

Now this will be interesting ! :huh:

What upgrades are you planning in the brakes and suspension departments ? (cause you are gonna need it ! LOL :P )

Keep those pictures coming !
Cheers
Giles.

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niterida
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29 Apr 2011, 23:09 #3

To start with it'll just be a std 13B Turbo so the standard Liberty suspension and brakes will be going on. Then I will upgrade bits and pieces as and when I need them and/or can afford them. Its only going to be a track car (drags, gymkhana etc) so it won't be registered.
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niterida
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07 May 2011, 10:11 #4

Quick update - have sourced a Gen 2 Liberty for the running gear - and a set of Genuine STi Forester forged BBS rims in 16" and they are unbelievably light. Pics when I get them home next week.
So far total cost of the project is AUD$1500 - and I have a good body, suspension, rear end, gearbox, front end, brakes, motor and rims - only thing missing is a radiator and exhaust and the usual bits and pieces for making it all fit together.
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Scoobydo
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07 May 2011, 17:50 #5

niterida @ May 7 2011, 10:11 AM wrote: Quick update - have sourced a Gen 2 Liberty for the running gear - and a set of Genuine STi Forester forged BBS rims in 16" and they are unbelievably light. Pics when I get them home next week.
So far total cost of the project is AUD$1500 - and I have a good body, suspension, rear end, gearbox, front end, brakes, motor and rims - only thing missing is a radiator and exhaust and the usual bits and pieces for making it all fit together.
But don't forget that magic ingredient called time ! :unsure:
Cheers
Giles.

MV 1800 - Scooby Rio Red My funtime drive
MV EJ20t project. Using a rust free Aussie import shell (On going)
Forester 2.0 XT Turbo Wifey's daily drive
Subaru Sumo Van....god only knows why !
Range Rover Sport 3.6 V8 Diesel ...Ooof it's FFF'KIN FAST !
Merc Sprinter 313CDi MWB van £ Making machine
Nissan Terrano Commercial 3.0 SE TDI SWB (workhorse)
TRS One 250cc - Trials Iron
Location - HALIFAX.... in God's own County of "Yaarkshire"
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niterida
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08 May 2011, 04:29 #6

Scoobydo @ May 7 2011, 05:50 PM wrote:
But don't forget that magic ingredient called time ! :unsure:
Got plenty of that - work 12hr shifts so only work 3 1/2 days per week, and then I get 2 weeks off every 10 weeks as well :-)
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Scoobydo
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08 May 2011, 11:23 #7

Ah the (as we call it) Continental Shift - I used to work like that - hated the nights loved the ''time off'' - good luck with the transplant and keep on posting the info up as you progress I can assure you there are some people who are very interested on this side of the planet in what you are doing ! ;)
Cheers
Giles.

MV 1800 - Scooby Rio Red My funtime drive
MV EJ20t project. Using a rust free Aussie import shell (On going)
Forester 2.0 XT Turbo Wifey's daily drive
Subaru Sumo Van....god only knows why !
Range Rover Sport 3.6 V8 Diesel ...Ooof it's FFF'KIN FAST !
Merc Sprinter 313CDi MWB van £ Making machine
Nissan Terrano Commercial 3.0 SE TDI SWB (workhorse)
TRS One 250cc - Trials Iron
Location - HALIFAX.... in God's own County of "Yaarkshire"
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niterida
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10 May 2011, 05:40 #8

Picked up the donor car and the wheels yesterday.

The car :



The wheels - which were bought separately and then put on the donor car so that the missus thinks they came with the car and I haven't spent as much money as I have :-)
These wheels are just so light - even with the big 21/5/60/16 offorad tyres they still weigh substantially less than something like the std WRX rims.
Will be getting low profile tyres on them when they go on the Brumby.



And the engine - which may be temporarily fitted to get the car registered :

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niterida
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10 May 2011, 05:46 #9

And just some gratuitous shots of my shed :







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Scoobydo
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10 May 2011, 16:33 #10

Nice pictures of the ''calm'' before the storm ! :P

When does the fun really begin then ?
Cheers
Giles.

MV 1800 - Scooby Rio Red My funtime drive
MV EJ20t project. Using a rust free Aussie import shell (On going)
Forester 2.0 XT Turbo Wifey's daily drive
Subaru Sumo Van....god only knows why !
Range Rover Sport 3.6 V8 Diesel ...Ooof it's FFF'KIN FAST !
Merc Sprinter 313CDi MWB van £ Making machine
Nissan Terrano Commercial 3.0 SE TDI SWB (workhorse)
TRS One 250cc - Trials Iron
Location - HALIFAX.... in God's own County of "Yaarkshire"
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niterida
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11 May 2011, 11:15 #11

Scoobydo @ May 10 2011, 04:33 PM wrote: Nice pictures of the ''calm'' before the storm ! :P

When does the fun really begin then ?
Hopefully next week - working all weekend and got a few things to do around the house (including taking a trip to the tip so I can empty the trays of both my Brumbys !!) but then I will be getting stuck into it.
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niterida
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18 May 2011, 09:38 #12

Progress has been made :







hmm so what do a bike rack and a soccer goal have to do with building a car ??

Well they both needed welding and since I have never welded before in my life I though it might be a good idea to practice on something that won't kill me if it fails.

So here are my first 2 attempts at any sort of welding :





Not good but not bad for my first go.
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Scoobydo
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18 May 2011, 11:02 #13

Good first go !
If I could suggest that when welding any zinc / galv / plated / coated metals surface that you sand away the 'coating' to shiny bare metal. Also ensure that the earthing point is similarly prepared and the earth is clamped tight to the (prepared surface) metal to be welded (or the route to the metal at very least) Oil grease and genaral muck build up will diminish the 'value' of the earthing.
With this in place, then see the improvement this brings to the arc / weld.
Then lots of practice and alittle progressive development and you will be very soon welding like a pro ! :D
Good work & keep it up.
Could be a market for those soccer net thingy's a game called football - it could catch on ! :P
Cheers
Giles.

MV 1800 - Scooby Rio Red My funtime drive
MV EJ20t project. Using a rust free Aussie import shell (On going)
Forester 2.0 XT Turbo Wifey's daily drive
Subaru Sumo Van....god only knows why !
Range Rover Sport 3.6 V8 Diesel ...Ooof it's FFF'KIN FAST !
Merc Sprinter 313CDi MWB van £ Making machine
Nissan Terrano Commercial 3.0 SE TDI SWB (workhorse)
TRS One 250cc - Trials Iron
Location - HALIFAX.... in God's own County of "Yaarkshire"
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niterida
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18 May 2011, 12:19 #14

Scoobydo @ May 18 2011, 07:02 PM wrote: Good first go !
If I could suggest that when welding any zinc / galv / plated / coated metals surface that you sand away the 'coating' to shiny bare metal. Also ensure that the earthing point is similarly prepared and the earth is clamped tight to the (prepared surface) metal to be welded (or the route to the metal at very least) Oil grease and genaral muck build up will diminish the 'value' of the earthing.
With this in place, then see the improvement this brings to the arc / weld.
Then lots of practice and alittle progressive development and you will be very soon welding like a pro ! :D
Good work & keep it up.
Could be a market for those soccer net thingy's a game called football - it could catch on ! :P
Yeah I knew I should've ground the galvanising off but it is only a bike rack and I was in a hurry. The rack lets me move the bikes out of my garage into my shed which then means I can put my other rusty Brumby in my garage rather than under the car cover out in the rain (yes it does rain here) where hopefully it won't rust any more than it already has.

As for soccer - well we have finally caught up with the rest of the world and officially it is called FOOTBALL here now - yay !! On a side note I have started playing again myself after 15years off - and walked straight into the first team for my local club in central midfield (normally play Goalkeeper or right back - never played midfield before). Not bad for a 46year old :-)
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niterida
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27 May 2011, 11:59 #15

Done some more welding and its getting better but still far from perfect :



But good enough to make this :



Total cost for the rotisserie is a shade over AUD$200 :-)

Which means I can do this :



And strip the Brumby down to this :





Remarkably almost rust free - just a bit under the passenger door (however the front guard where it bolts to the car just here is almost totally gone :-( ), in the tray where the cab meets it and under the windscreen cowl. There's a few dents under the body too that will need to be fixed but pretty happy with it overall.









Next project is to clean the grease and crap off it, strip the running gear from the donor Liberty and start fitting it to the Brumby.
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