The Old Dark House (1932) 4K restoration

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April 13th, 2018, 5:43 pm #561

TomWeaver999 wrote: The Rondo-losing OLD DARK HOUSE Blu-ray? Isn't this the kind of movie the CHFB is dedicated to? We are the Cyber Old Dark House. And this gift-from-God Blu-ray gets kicked to the curb? Eeeeeek.

Bleep SUSPIRIA.
With more people now voting in the Rondo Awards likely come more younger and newer viewers: 
They would be more familiar with "Suspiria".

 I do feel that for the true definition of Classic Horror, only "The Old Dark House" really qualifies, 
and for the quality of that film, I gave it my vote for Best Restoration or Upgrade. 

On the other hand, the Synapse release of "Suspiria" is likely the film with the most detailed restoration. While I am not an Argento nor "Giallo" fan 
(and, to  prove my prejudice, I proudly prefer the USA ghost-story-re-cut of The Telephone episode of "Black Sabbath"), 
but I do think that "Suspiria" an interesting film. Overrated in many ways, yet it is a fun nightmare of color. 

But I think one needs to distinguish pre-1974 films from the post-1973 gore & slasher product: 
There is little after 1974 that meets with the original meaning of Classic Horror. I cringe when I see all these websites and reviewers putting things like the Friday 13th stuff into the heading of Classic Horror: 
For me, that is a different genre altogether, and it is one that I have little to no interest.
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April 13th, 2018, 11:28 pm #562

TomWeaver999 wrote: The Rondo-losing OLD DARK HOUSE Blu-ray? Isn't this the kind of movie the CHFB is dedicated to? We are the Cyber Old Dark House. And this gift-from-God Blu-ray gets kicked to the curb? Eeeeeek.

Bleep SUSPIRIA.
You said it!  I can't believe how this did not win best restoration.  Restoring a 1932 film buried in the LOC for decades vs. restoring a 1977 wide release?  Most importantly, the restoration of TODH brought the film out in an entirely new light.  Total bleeping bull-bleep!
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April 14th, 2018, 1:10 am #563

I suspect that most CHFB members who voted, did vote for THE OLD DARK HOUSE. But the vote is open to other fans, younger fans, Argento fans, and various Philistines. Blame them.
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April 14th, 2018, 1:43 am #564

I think I voted for THE LOST WORLD.
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April 14th, 2018, 6:32 am #565

I certainly am in favor of keeping the Classic Horror Film Board all about CLASSIC HORROR!
(And very little after THE EXORCIST qualifies as that!)
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April 14th, 2018, 3:24 pm #566

Allen Champion wrote: I certainly am in favor of keeping the Classic Horror Film Board all about CLASSIC HORROR!
(And very little after THE EXORCIST qualifies as that!)
Exactly my feeling. 

That does not mean to dismiss anything later, but I think separate categories should be listed for anything post-Exorcist. 
That film and the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre make for a distinct dividing line in the meaning of the term "classic horror film"

While there was the cheap (and awful) Blood Feast type gore of the 1960s, they did not mark the moment that the mainstream of "horror" would be gore and a teenage body count.
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April 15th, 2018, 4:18 am #567

I would make the cutoff either NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD or THE EXORCIST.   I  lean towards the latter, because 1974 includes the last gasp of Hammer.
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April 15th, 2018, 6:58 pm #568

Allen Champion wrote: I would make the cutoff either NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD or THE EXORCIST.   I  lean towards the latter, because 1974 includes the last gasp of Hammer.
I agree with ALLEN....completely and Abso-FRACKING-Lutely!!   Who fought like HECK, as small kids, to FIND THE OLD DARK HOUSE?,  To SHOW it, and then get it RELEASED?  I first heard of TODH, in FAMOUS MONSTERS....and sent a dime...(which was my weekly "take home pay" at the time).  WHY?   BECAUSE I knew of its place in the monstrous cycle of life.  I knew it THEN, and I know it NOW.....and I will fight like HECK as an adult, to preserve our History.   TODH's  Restoration should never  have had to compete with some of the dreck that's in post millennial theatres.

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April 15th, 2018, 9:17 pm #569

I just wanted to put my outrage in here over THE OLD DARK HOUSE losing to SUSPERIA.  I am dismayed that, for the very first time, I picked no winners in the Rondo vote.  Perhaps the label "classic horror film" is no longer applicable.  How about "vintage horror film" for genre films pre-NOLD?  
I guess as our generation fades, we are losing what this site was created for.  I figure that's just the normal process of evolution.  It  does make me sad, though.
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April 20th, 2018, 5:53 pm #570

MYST0 wrote: I guess as our generation fades, we are losing what this site was created for.  I figure that's just the normal process of evolution.  It  does make me sad, though.
I agree.  Much wisdom there.  It got me curious and I checked to see what are the most popular folders here on the CHFB.  The top five folders on the CHFB are (drum roll, please):

#5 -- TV TERRORS offers readers 62.0K posts.  A generalized thread that covers the entire spectrum of TV history.
#4 -- 50s HORROR AND SCI-FI commands 79.3K posts.  The golden age folder for science fiction film aficionados.
#3 -- UNIVERSAL HORRORS fetches an impressive 104.2K.  The first old school, classic film thread to break 100k posts.
#2 -- CLASSIC HORROR ON DVD AND BLU-RAY garners 124.9K posts.  Another generalized thread with a broad range of interests represented.

And weighing in at the #1 position, the folder with the greatest variety and, therefore, the broadest appeal of any folder on the CHFB is (a trumpet herald sounds):

#1 -- OFF TOPIC with an impressive 173.2K posts.

And, of course, this doesn't count the # of views.

My conclusion:  At least here on the CHFB, the interest in classic horror, science fiction, and fantasy remains healthy.  For the time being and, hopefully, for the foreseeable future, at least our lifetimes.
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April 22nd, 2018, 3:58 pm #571

I've bought my ticket to see it on the big screen next week as it does the rounds of U.K cinemas, "have a potato!"  Femmtastic.
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Yesterday, 2:21 am #572

There was no greater challenge than what we had in bringing GOG back to stereoscopic life. If you've ever messed around with color correction in Photoshop, you know how difficult it can be restoring even a partially faded image. The only surviving 35mm left side of GOG had no color whatsoever.

We brought the entire 3-D restoration in for about $10K.

PHANTASM was voted the Best Restoration in the Rondo's that year.

Sigh...



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Yesterday, 3:24 pm #573

Yeah, I was a little taken aback by some of the Rondo winners.  I had seen the GOG videos of it's restoration and was AMAZED at how much was done to the original film elements.  Shouda won, hands down.
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Yesterday, 4:08 pm #574

I think many voters did not appreciate the difference between a true restoration vs. a sparkly new 4K scan of a good 35mm element. GOG would have been lost forever in 3-D were it not for our efforts.

Or, they simply voted for their favorite film on the list!
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Yesterday, 4:59 pm #575

Or they just haven't seen / bought the GOG bluray disc.  It's an older 1950s film, rarely seen in recent years, and Phantasm is a more recent / modern film. 

I'm not a huge fan of the film GOG, but after seeing the restoration videos, and being a fan of older 3D films, I HAD to get it and wasn't disappointed.  I was amazed at the quality of the restoration - bright, vibrant colors, and the 3D effects are very good.  Even the sound is great. 

From the restoration clip on Phantasm, it doesn't look like much restoration was done on the film.  It looked the the elements were in much better condition than GOG.  And it appears as if they're comparing the original DVD to the remastered version, and not a "before / After" look at the actual film elements themselves. 
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Yesterday, 5:04 pm #576

But if someone hasn't seen every "restoration" in the nomination category, how can they vote on which is best?
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Yesterday, 5:25 pm #577

As with most awards, people vote on what they've seen. 


The real reward is whether the audience - people who have seen the films / bought the discs - like the finished product.  And I for one LOVE it!

I have the GOG bluray and was blown away by how it looks.  It is well worth the price.  Full marks!

And keep 'em coming!!
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Yesterday, 5:43 pm #578

Thank you!

Up next is SANGAREE!

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/sangaree
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Yesterday, 5:48 pm #579

Looks interesting.  I'm in!
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Yesterday, 8:57 pm #580

Crow T Robot wrote: Yeah, I was a little taken aback by some of the Rondo winners.  I had seen the GOG videos of it's restoration and was AMAZED at how much was done to the original film elements.  Shouda won, hands down.
This goes, I think to the same argument sports get into vis-a-vis MVP.

Is it the best player? Is the player most important to their team? What if they aren't the same player.

I agree Gog and Old Dark House were better restorations than Phantasm and Suspiria. I voted for them accordingly. However, I also recognize that Phantasm and Suspiria yielded better looking final products, and are valid winners if you voted according to that definition. I don't know that we provide sufficiently detailed instructions to really argue one definition is legitimate versus the other.

\I have similar issues with the Academy Awards, in Best Sound Editing versus Best Sound Mixing. I don't think I'm alone. The same films are usually nominated, with the same entry winning both categories.
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