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The Dark Side Magazine & The Rondos

HammerFilmFan
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April 15th, 2018, 3:57 pm #1

So..... TDS didn't win as best mag, nor win in any other categories - and wasn't even a runner-up in any of the categories!

9 issues produced per year......  HEAVY emphasis on classic horror......   beautifully laid out, illustrated, and written (ok, there are a lot of typos, can't have everything.....).  And what comes in as the winner and some of the runners-up......?  Scary Monsters (poorly produced and written), the ridiculously pompous Video Watchdog (ONE issue sent ONLY to subscribers owed an issue), FM (ONE issue, that I think few here have even seen!), and the terribly written (but beautifully printed) Classic Monsters of the Movies (another British mag like TDS).

And I'm familiar with all of these titles, I've read many issues of them.

Have any of you even bothered to pick up a new issue (available at almost every B&N or Books-A-Million) and scanned through it?! And if you have, you actually put it back on the shelf and bought something like Scary Monsters?

When I vote on the Rondos, I skip any categories I'm not familiar with, in order to be fair. 

I simply can't believe that TDS is not getting the attention it deserves......  So sad.
The best horror film mag currently being published, IMO....... The Dark Side

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April 15th, 2018, 8:03 pm #2

Had to google it, but looks like a really top notch publication!

https://thedarksidemagazine.com/


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April 15th, 2018, 8:38 pm #3

This is why that particular magazine will never get a vote from me. Even though I was eventually compensated it still sucks that they did what they did. (And a big tip of the hat to Mirek for uncovering it).


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April 15th, 2018, 8:40 pm #4

Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. Even if they're strictly kosher and aboveboard these days, they have a past rep hanging on them. 

I think it's a good mag nowadays, but I voted for LITTLE SHOPPE OF HORRORS in the magazine category and have no doubt that I voted correctly.
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April 15th, 2018, 10:30 pm #5

I remember that debacle well. There is sooo much drama with (almost) every genre mag that has been produced. But with the great writers currently working for the mag, I say it's time to move on!
The best horror film mag currently being published, IMO....... The Dark Side

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April 15th, 2018, 11:21 pm #6

HammerFilmFan wrote: So..... TDS didn't win as best mag, nor win in any other categories - and wasn't even a runner-up in any of the categories!

9 issues produced per year......  HEAVY emphasis on classic horror......   beautifully laid out, illustrated, and written (ok, there are a lot of typos, can't have everything.....).  And what comes in as the winner and some of the runners-up......?  Scary Monsters (poorly produced and written), the ridiculously pompous Video Watchdog (ONE issue sent ONLY to subscribers owed an issue), FM (ONE issue, that I think few here have even seen!), and the terribly written (but beautifully printed) Classic Monsters of the Movies (another British mag like TDS).

And I'm familiar with all of these titles, I've read many issues of them.

Have any of you even bothered to pick up a new issue (available at almost every B&N or Books-A-Million) and scanned through it?! And if you have, you actually put it back on the shelf and bought something like Scary Monsters?

When I vote on the Rondos, I skip any categories I'm not familiar with, in order to be fair. 

I simply can't believe that TDS is not getting the attention it deserves......  So sad.
ridiculously pompous video watchdog, I could learn more reading only one issue of watchdog then all 160 some issues of the dark side, and that is a fact, look it up.
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April 15th, 2018, 11:38 pm #7

I bought about the first 50 issues of VW, then would buy it or subscribe occasionally, before deciding to sell the entire collection. Some good stuff once in while, but I stand by my call of being ridiculously pompous.
The best horror film mag currently being published, IMO....... The Dark Side

http://www.thedarksidemagazine.com/
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April 15th, 2018, 11:51 pm #8

After I know that DARK SIDE has made a good, sincere apology in print, and private ones to the ripped-off writers they could reach, and told the true story of how it happened, I'll drop my grudge. Until then, they're dead to me. I haven't seen an issue in years since it's not in the bookstores I visit, and I'm not about to send them $. They also owe me $, by the way ... but it's the plagiarism (and the fact that they've tried to sweep it under the carpet) that chaps my hide, not the fact that I'm one of the many they've stiffed.
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April 16th, 2018, 12:31 am #9

HammerFilmFan wrote: Scary Monsters (poorly produced and written)
HFF, I'd counter that a little...

In the Druktenis Era, even I sometimes wrote that I wished the production and editing was a little tighter - but the HEART of the thing has always rung true. Some of the writing was all that one could ask. And I would say that as far a goal that many such mags tout - maintaining a vintage FM feel - SM has done the best of all (along with our own Kerry Gammill's much-missed online mag...)

And the new owners have - thankfully - kept that Monsterkid heart intact, while quietly sharpening up the editing and production a bit.

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April 16th, 2018, 12:35 am #10

Craig - I agree it's certainly much better now! Covers have been great! But.......   still very cheaply printed and the writing leaves a LOT to be desired - there's little there that's scholarly! If one like fans just gushing, great.....  but I prefer a little more depth.
The best horror film mag currently being published, IMO....... The Dark Side

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April 16th, 2018, 2:08 am #11

Understood.

Different goals for the mags, I think?
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April 16th, 2018, 2:57 am #12

HammerFilmFan wrote: Craig - I agree it's certainly much better now! Covers have been great! But.......   still very cheaply printed and the writing leaves a LOT to be desired - there's little there that's scholarly! If one like fans just gushing, great.....  but I prefer a little more depth.
Well, at least the Dark Side got a Rondo nomination! I've contributed work to an excellent UK publication called The Fantastic Fifties, and all they deal in is retro horror and science fiction films/TV before the 60s. It wasn't even nominated for ANYTHING! 

As for Scary Monsters, I'll admit that the first time I picked up the magazine, in 1993 or so, I thought, "what IS this?" Seemed so incredibly amateurish. I bought a few issues and had a few laughs at the poorly laid out "stories," not to mention the truly abysmal writing. But in early 1998, when I was running my comic store, I decided to buy their yearbook. This time, I ended up reading it from cover to cover--and though it was still on the amateur side, I could see the true beauty of the magazine. It was all about Memory with a capital "M." That appealed to me on a basic level, as an aging Baby Boomer. So, I decided to contribute my own "monster memory," which saw print an entire year later in their 1999 yearbook, and after that, I've contributed on and off. 

The purpose of Scary Monsters has never been about scholarly works. It's all about monster memories, period. When someone is writing about the first time they saw From Hell it Came, what candy they were eating, how the kids reacted around them, I feel like I'm right there experiencing it, too. That's the lovely quality this magazine has; it wears its heart on its sleeve. Plus, Scary Monsters is the ONLY magazine written by readers, not necessarily horror scholars or experts in the field. Frankly, I'm tired of that kind of pomposity, which means Scary Monsters is like a breath of fresh air. 

As for the writing, all I can say is, my work has always been professional. It's gotten me six Rondo nominations over the years, so I must be doing something right. And my fellow writers have also rated highly in the Rondos. Compensation is bare bones: two copies of the magazine and exposure...but I do it because only SM allows me to record my own memories, put them out there, and hopefully, they'll resonate. Just yesterday, I finished up what is essentially a "monster memory," this time about Hammer's The Devil's Own, and how it changed my life. Can you imagine an article like that in Video Watchdog? Or even the Dark Side? But if you're after "scholarly," then I suggest you read Dr. Mark Glassy's very academic and informative articles in the new and improved Scary Monsters. They're definitely not "monster memories!" Kudos to Don and Vicki for kicking things up a notch. The books are beautiful, the cover artwork startling, and the layout compares to anything out there right now. 

Just thought I'd add my two cents. 
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April 16th, 2018, 3:04 am #13

I voted for LITTLE SHOPPE OF HORRORS. Never read DARK SIDE, never will.
  
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April 16th, 2018, 3:14 am #14

As for the opening post here, I think it should be possible to cite the merits of a favorite magazine without denigrating other publications. Jeez...
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April 16th, 2018, 3:15 am #15

HammerFilmFan

I voted for it.  I think many of the Board members remember the complaints about plagiarism during the mag's earlier incarnation, hence the lack of votes.  After their hiatus , they reinvented themselves and DARK SIDE is now a must read, in my opinion.   I agree with David that knocking other mags gets you nowhere and is frowned upon by most members.  I especially want to defend VIDEO WATCHDOG, which is one of my all-time faves.  In fact, there are no Bad genre magazines out there.  Some are just better than others.
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April 16th, 2018, 3:38 am #16

taraco wrote: As for the opening post here, I think it should be possible to cite the merits of a favorite magazine without denigrating other publications. Jeez...
Yep, I was a "little" tough on those other publications, true, but felt that comparisons needed to be made to prove a point.

Like I said in the post, I have read many things in all the publications I listed. And bought issues of them all. And there is a lot to like about many of them. 

But there just isn't a comparison with any of them to TDS in terms of being award-worthy (IMO). 

I often pick up Scary Monsters, and really want to like it -- it's improved so much -- but just end up putting it back on the shelf. These fan reminiscenses just don't seem award-worthy either. 
The best horror film mag currently being published, IMO....... The Dark Side

http://www.thedarksidemagazine.com/
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April 16th, 2018, 2:11 pm #17

Well, for me they've always been the chief draw of the mag.

I'll honestly admit to not buying many of the monthly issues; but the Monster Memories annual has been a tradition with me for years. It's like a longer-form, print version of our many shared stories around the CHFB cyber-fire.
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April 16th, 2018, 7:02 pm #18

My favorite, MAD SCIENTIST, didn't win anything, but you won't see me coming on here putting down other people's magazines (and taking the people who read and vote for them to task) in hopes of drawing attention to MAD SCIENTIST. 

Did I mention MAD SCIENTIST Magazine? 

http://www.madscientistzine.com/
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April 16th, 2018, 7:22 pm #19

>the ridiculously pompous Video Watchdog

Sorry, but you lost me right there.
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April 16th, 2018, 9:45 pm #20

I've got a few copies of TDS .No complaints.One of the few genre publications I can pick up at a local newsagent.
Not sure why you have to put down other mags .
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