Starship Troopers

Horror and sci-fi go mainstream.
gorgozilla
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November 21st, 2012, 2:04 pm #41

Kingkongkessler wrote:
blackbiped wrote:I always thought Rico was crazy for not preferring her over Catfish Face.
Ditto
   Likewise.
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June 10th, 2018, 10:35 pm #42

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June 11th, 2018, 5:05 am #43

I didnt like it when I first saw it --thinking it was an effort to imitate Robocop  but with a slapped on a Beverly Hills 90whatever romantic plot--but it grew on me in later viewings especially into the early 2000s when it began to feel prophetic about warmongering propaganda.

The relationship triangle is what derailed the film for me because Rico comes across as such a fool for much of the film for ignoring Dizzy but embracing the cold Carmen (until his commanding officer sets him straight) but now we see that was all intentional.  The uncomfortable feeling you are left with when they are cheering the fear of the captive  and Rico and Carmen going off to their happy careers in the military.

It is interesting that it does not just critique the society in an overt manner. The recruitment guy saying the Mobile Infantry made him the man he is today-and you see he has mechanical limbs--but then the reporter who points out that the aliens may have had their territory invaded is one of the first to get killed  by them.

All the teachers have missing parts (men and women) but the society is apparently fully functional and working.

The spfx hold up extremely well. I think this must be due to the  Phil Tippett crew of animators still using the Dinosaur Input Devices they developed for Jurassic Park and accounts for the realistic weighting of the aliens. Compared to a film like Dragonheart  which comes across much more cartoony.
One of the best uses of CGI and practical.

Medic!!!
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June 11th, 2018, 5:42 am #44

I loved this movie when it came out. Thousands of soldiers versus thousands of giant bugs, all delivered with a great big smart wink, an Archie triangle subplot powered by a cast of exciting young people and way ahead-of-its-time satire.

The special effects were especially groundbreaking, both the space battles and the bug encounters of the icky kind. Now commonplace but back then, wow.

I remember on the Monday after STARSHIP TROOPERS came out our USA TODAY movie reviewer gave it four stars for pure moviemaking. He came over to me, knowing my genre proclivities, and asked a bit nervously if I agreed. I enthusiastically gave him a thumbs up, saying then as I say now, 'thousands of soldiers versus thousands of giant bugs. What could be better than that?'

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June 11th, 2018, 2:34 pm #45

taraco wrote:The special effects were especially groundbreaking, both the space battles and the bug encounters of the icky kind. Now commonplace but back then, wow.
It only came out 11 years after this:


Cameron also gave us power armor versus giant bugs.

This felt like a missed opportunity. If you wanted to subvert the book, it's ridiculously easy to recast the story as Full Metal Jacket in Space. That keeps everything the fans wanted to see (but didn't get), but keeps the satire and subversion Verhoeven wanted. I thought Starship Troopers had the same flaw that Total Recall (and to a lesser extent, Robocop) did -- I couldn't tell where they had spent all the money. Starship Troopers somehow cost $37M more than Jurassic Park and $35M more than Total Recall ($10M of which went to Arnold), yet looks cheaper than both.
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