Jameselliot
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April 10th, 2018, 1:41 am #21

So if someone loudly passes wind, they're done for.
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April 10th, 2018, 2:15 pm #22

Three days later and I still can't get rid of A SUMMER PLACE.
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April 11th, 2018, 5:25 am #23

I thought this was great. I probably jumped in my seat more than I have at any other film. That doesn't mean it's the most frightening film, it's more of a function of how eerily quiet so much of the film is.

It did remind me of SIGNS, and like SIGNS it's a great thrill ride that's vulnerable to being picked apart logic-wise. Fair enough.

But A QUIET PLACE is original enough and effective enough to be a treat that most horror fans shouldn't miss.

(I'm eager to ask the folks here some spoilery questions about the ending, which I didn't totally understand. But it's clearly too early for that and I'd hate to spoil the film for anyone.)
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April 11th, 2018, 10:45 pm #24

Saw this today - and yes there are a couple of logic questions I had at first but then after the Grain Silo incident I understood.

Regarding the ending - I got it.  But it raises some more "logic" questions for me.  Enjoyed the movie. The sound design of this movie is really good.  
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April 12th, 2018, 3:35 pm #25

Jameselliot wrote: So if someone loudly passes wind, they're done for.
That would be me.
Re: the comparisons to IT COMES AT NIGHT: when I first started seeing ads for this movie, I thought it was IT COMES AT NIGHT. I bet you could mash-up the trailers & not know where one ends & the other begins. 
I haven't seen either one yet, so I am not pre-judging the quality of either movie. 
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April 15th, 2018, 7:31 pm #26

It was pretty good. Liked the last shot a lot. Premise was interesting, and refreshing. Most original "scary" film since probably the Witch.


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There are gaps that bugged me especially since we had no idea how the whole situation came about. I wondered why, if the creatures are so distinctly sound based, that science/military didn't figure something out and attack them that way. NOT knowing what happened is a 2 edged sword from a story telling POV. One can just say to oneself, "well who knows maybe it happened so fast there was no time OR one can just say  "Why didn't they set a tremendous amount of explosives in pits somewhere and lure thousands of creatures there and blow em away or use a sonic attack?" 

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April 15th, 2018, 10:01 pm #27

Robert -  Yes to me that was the major plot hole.  Still enjoyable but clearly makes you go "hhmmmmm.....".
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April 15th, 2018, 10:29 pm #28

Robert Troch wrote: It was pretty good. Liked the last shot a lot. Premise was interesting, and refreshing. Most original "scary" film since probably the Witch.


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There are gaps that bugged me....
Read my Fantomas comic comment above...
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April 16th, 2018, 5:12 pm #29

Yes, my first thought about 20 minutes in was why haven't they just used sound to lure these things into a fatal trap? If you can ignore that, it's not a bad little creature feature.
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April 16th, 2018, 9:55 pm #30

MacXoftheMounted wrote: Yes, my first thought about 20 minutes in was why haven't they just used sound to lure these things into a fatal trap? If you can ignore that, it's not a bad little creature feature.
Exactly!  The movie opens up on DAY 89.  Which implies that a lot has gone down during those 89 days and that they these creatures for whatever reason are tough to defeat and are attacked to sound.    Made me wonder what exactly did they try?  Anyway, forget this, and ENJOY the movie.
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April 17th, 2018, 2:57 am #31

dracsback wrote:
MacXoftheMounted wrote: Yes, my first thought about 20 minutes in was why haven't they just used sound to lure these things into a fatal trap? If you can ignore that, it's not a bad little creature feature.
Exactly!  The movie opens up on DAY 89.  Which implies that a lot has gone down during those 89 days and that they these creatures for whatever reason are tough to defeat and are attacked to sound.    Made me wonder what exactly did they try?  Anyway, forget this, and ENJOY the movie.
The writers imply that the monsters' ability is only a strength and not a weakness (or at least not an easily found out weakness.) 

Tell that to a hungover Julius Kelp.

Defeating Triffids with water, or Star Trek aliens with Rock, or these sound sensitive guys is lazy and unworthy of the extensive body of genre work in both Horror and Science Fiction.
Basically, tells me the writers have only a superficial knowledge of the genre, or that they are targeting people who have the same level of genre ignorance as they. 

Not to say that I cannot enjoy Day of the Triffids (1951), but I necessarily must view it as celluloid cheese.
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April 17th, 2018, 11:03 am #32

What about sea water defeating The Andromeda Strain?
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April 17th, 2018, 3:57 pm #33

amanaplan1 wrote: What about sea water defeating The Andromeda Strain?
That too, that is why Andromeda is an anti-Science Fiction movie. But Crichton is doing it purposely, and not out of ignorance. 
I mentioned that in my review The Crazies, and got some flak.
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April 17th, 2018, 4:37 pm #34

Any movie with a plot is going to have at least one plot hole, no matter how small.

That's not to denigrate anyone's feelings nor opinions good or bad about A QUIET PLACE, just an observation.

My biggest beef with the movie is Evelyn's pregnancy, as she was obviously impregnated after the invasion.

Hello, hello? Bueller? Did they not stop to think of the ramifications of A-Her making noise giving birth? B-A noisy crying newborn? C-Bringing a new life into such a world? Or what about the noises often made during sex?

I mean there was the abandoned drug store they went to. Surely they had condoms there? What made them think her getting pregnant was a good idea?

BTW, I am not being facetious. As much as I did enjoy the movie, that plot point bugged the hell outta me. As much as it may have helped to ratchet up the tension & drama, at the same time it was painfully obvious. Still, it wasn't enough to take me out of the movie, but it seemed somewhat ridiculous given their situation. 
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April 17th, 2018, 4:43 pm #35

That was the wife's biggest peeve.
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April 17th, 2018, 7:44 pm #36

Bluesman Mark wrote: Any movie with a plot is going to have at least one plot hole, no matter how small.

That's not to denigrate anyone's feelings nor opinions good or bad about A QUIET PLACE, just an observation.

My biggest beef with the movie is Evelyn's pregnancy, as she was obviously impregnated after the invasion.

Hello, hello? Bueller? Did they not stop to think of the ramifications of A-Her making noise giving birth? B-A noisy crying newborn? C-Bringing a new life into such a world? Or what about the noises often made during sex?

I mean there was the abandoned drug store they went to. Surely they had condoms there? What made them think her getting pregnant was a good idea?

BTW, I am not being facetious. As much as I did enjoy the movie, that plot point bugged the hell outta me. As much as it may have helped to ratchet up the tension & drama, at the same time it was painfully obvious. Still, it wasn't enough to take me out of the movie, but it seemed somewhat ridiculous given their situation. 
I think that is the reason the incident with the first child was written in. There was a void that needed to be filled in. Life must go on after all. But then, that is why the specifics of the farm are bothersome. If they knew the farm was deficient, and they had an answer that they knew worked, why did not they go with it? And, it's not even a matter of having to build a home. There are lots of prefab options, tents and such, which, yes, are inconvenient or uncomfortable, but safe. Safer than houses.
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April 18th, 2018, 3:31 pm #37

The 'baby' thing was a deal breaker as far as the movie being anything approaching greatness. I understand the 'life goes on' theory, but, if Krasinski and the writers felt they needed that element to ratchet up the suspense, they could have gotten around the credibility issue by having the family find someone else's baby (like they came across the old man).

But, an even more fundamental implausablility was the portrayal of the creatures. A race that was able to virtually wipe out mankind would have much heightened ALL of their other senses if vision was their weak spot. Further, the idea that after a full year, said creatures wouldn't have figured out that there was a nexus of activity in that house strains credulity to the point where the filmmakers are just saying to the audience, 'Hey, we haven't figured this all out -- please just go with it and turn off your brains"
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April 18th, 2018, 3:34 pm #38

'Hey, we haven't figured this all out -- please just go with it and turn off your brains"
Random raccoon behavior is bothersome to them, but the routines of a settled farm household are not (or, haven't been in a year.)
I'm with you.

I've been with you all this whole time.
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April 18th, 2018, 10:15 pm #39

I enjoyed it! An entertaining, unpretentious monster movie. Nothing more. 
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April 21st, 2018, 9:28 pm #40

Note: Spoilers are only at the very end)

One of the benefits of the short story form (whether written or filmed) is that one can build a tale out of a single thought, concept or idea, unburdened by having to explain every detail and nuance. Director John Krasinski and his co-writers Bryan Woods & Scott Beck smartest instincts here were to keep A QUIET PLACE as brief as it is (90 minutes including credits), but, it's just long enough that serious fundamental questions arise except for the most undemanding of viewers.

We are plunged right into Day 89 of some sort of alien invasion that has seemingly wiped out most of mankind. A small rural family immediately comes face to face with the creatures in a quick and brutal confrontation. Flash forward over a year later and the family is still hunkered down in their farm home. Little is ever explained about the beings save for the fact that they hunt through sound rather than vision. The only other backstory information is conveyed through some newspaper clippings and a few scrawled notes. The parents (Emily Blunt and Krasinski) can only communicate with their kids (Noah Jupe and Millicent Simmonds - who was so expressive in last year's criminally under-seen WONDERSTRUCK) via sign language, lip reading and the faintest of whispers. Simmonds' character Regan is also deaf (as is the actress herself).


From this point onward, A QUIET PLACE is one long survival sequence, juiced up with a hoary and logically HIGHLY questionable plot twist (see Spoilers* section at very bottom). Still, within the minimalist screenplay, the central quartet of actors is able to convey the family dynamics in an effective manner. Suspense is dutifully built even as quibbles build in the viewer's mind along the way.


Shooting in 35mm, Danish DP Charlotte Bruus Christensen gives the film a gritty lived in look that wouldn't have been as effective in glossy digital. The sound and film editing are also spot on. Indeed, it's been a minor miracle that a film where silence and slow-building suspense is so critical that today's infamous ADD audiences have turned this into a major hit. To have fully taken the premise to its logical artistic extension, the movie should have had no musical score at all. But, that, it seems, was a place too far for Krasinski and Paramount Pictures (we need our make 'em jump in the seats with a loud musical cue cliche, don't we?). A minimal score could have worked. Unfortunately, Marco Beltrami turns in another of his hack-work compositions (the one decent theme can charitably be termed an 'homage' to a certain popular Arvo Part composition). Again, on a purely artistic level, no music should have been included, but, Beltrami's scoring is actively detrimental to the film. The Production Design and Special Effects are fine.

In the end, one's appreciation of A QUIET PLACE will depend on how caught up one gets with family's struggle. For others, even an hour and a half will be enough for those nagging questions to catch up at some point. A QUIET PLACE is a decent bit of sci-fi suspense, but, a few more (well thought out) layers could have made it much more.


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The main sticking point for many is the introduction of a baby in the context of a story where any loud sound is near certain doom. Because of what happens in the opening teaser, there's a certain 'life goes on' explanation for the pregnancy, but, it still plays like an artificial (and poorly thought out) plot turn. If the filmmakers really felt it was necessary to amp up the suspense, the family could have found the baby outside (as with their discovery of the old man). But, even more fundamentally, the idea that creatures where vision is limited wouldn't have also attuned ALL of their other senses (besides sound) is hard to accept scientifically. And, the idea that after 470+ days, the creatures wouldn't have figured out that there was a nexus of activity around that one house is unbelievable. And, the finale? Risible. None of the great world's scientists would have thought of that? Here again, a short film (or TV episode) would have had the benefit of less time to think about such matters. The last shot is an unforgivable sop to the yahoo instincts of the crowd (and, utterly not in keeping with the sober tone of the rest of the piece).
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