Link: Copy link
Hadn't thought of it before, but your description of "The Seventh Victim" as an "endless sequence of people wondering where the sister was" made me think of "L'Avventura". Of course, in the latter, the heroine, I believe, SPOILER?? never does turn up. Wonder if Antonioni had seen TSV....PerfectPawn wrote: I intend to read Reality of Terror one of these days. Any reason why Siegel and others rate Seventh Victim so highly? I found it dull and plodding. It came off to me like an endless sequence of people wondering where the sister was, with the psychiatrist making smarmy comments about not being able to divulge her whereabouts. It just kept going on and on and on. I Walked With A Zombie on the other hand moves at an absorbing pace, with an incredible visual style.
And lo and behold...Rick wrote: Nothing about the quote or the movie even. But I didn't want to start a new thread for a movie that doesn't deserve it.
And, no, the undeserving movie is certainly not I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE. It's the remake of that film, titled RITUAL from (maybe) 2002.
I didn't know this movie existed till just a couple of years back when I read something about a remake of I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE. At first I thought someone had lost their mind. First, why would anyone remake it? Second, if someone had remade such a classic then surely I would have heard of it.
Well, turns out someone did remake it and somehow I hadn't heard of it.
Now I've seen it. It truly is a remake of I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE, though much changed. It stars Jennifer Grey and her remodeled nose in the Frances Dee role, with Craig Sheffer as master of the house. The zombie wife has become a zombie brother and he's only sometimes a zombie. Or something.
So this one, being from the 21st Century, features gore and nudity and and and. In every way it has lost, or more properly, abandoned everything that was subtle in the original. Not just the obvious, but even the psychology of the piece, even the presentation of the voodoo.
It will surprise no one, I trust, to hear that RITUAL is not a good movie, and not the tiniest patch on the Lewton classic which it so artlessly rips off.
By the way, this is a "Tales from the Crypt" movie. It is introduced and ushered out by the old Cryptkeeper. I read a bit about this online and there seems to be some dispute as to whether it was always intended as a "Crypt" offering, or if the wraparound "comedy" was an afterthought.
Not that it really matters, of course.
IWWAZ: Maybe, but guilt, responsibility, suspicion, etc. get sorted out, very interestingly, in the last third. True, I guess, the intoxicating visuals don't resume until the very last sequence....professor liebstrum wrote: Am I the only person who feels IWWAZ isn't as enjoyable after the walk through the cane fields and the voodoo ceremony. It goes a bit flat after that for me . I do enjoy the film a lot though ,as I do all the Lewton Horrors and MADMOISELLE FIFI & APACHE DRUMS.
My favourites remain ISLE OF THE DEAD & THE SEVENTH VICTIM
Maybe so. I haven't seen IWWAZ for a long while, however I do remember the ending, the last scene, or sequence if you will, and the accompanying music, as darkly beautiful as any I can remember for a horror film.professor liebstrum wrote: Am I the only person who feels IWWAZ isn't as enjoyable after the walk through the cane fields and the voodoo ceremony. It goes a bit flat after that for me . I do enjoy the film a lot though ,as I do all the Lewton Horrors and MADMOISELLE FIFI & APACHE DRUMS.
My favourites remain ISLE OF THE DEAD & THE SEVENTH VICTIM
In fact--although neither "I Walked" nor "White Zombie" is an adaptation of "Magic Island" or the stories therein--"Walked" takes a bit more from Seabrook than does "White Z"....haraldg wrote: "A voodoo warning" from William Seabrook's "The Magic Island" (1929), and a still from I WALKED WITH A ZOMBIE.
I like all three, too. The sonorous, almost plaintive music of I Walked With A Zombie puts it over for me. Ever since my first viewing, it's like it still plays in my head ; well, some of the time, not always. I remember it well. It's a beautiful score even as it's dark and haunting. Then there's that final scene . Poetic and horrifying at the same time.Tommy wrote: I can't decide between IWWAZ, Cat People or The Leopard Man as being my favorite. I've probably seen IWWAZ the most times followed closely by The Leopard Man. That sequence with the girl going to get meal or flour or whatever for mamacita is absolutely brilliant and scares the hell out of everyone I show it to. Lewton left us way, way too soon.
Sometimes I get those drums from IWWAZ stuck in my head...
That surreal ending of The Leopard Man is striking, and for the first time viewer, unexpected. I love it. One of the best sequences in the Lewton canon.PerfectPawn wrote: It's funny how critic/fan perception changes over the years. I've got a 1968 book titled "Hollywood in the 1940s" by Charles Higham and another author whose name escapes me; in the two-page section on Lewton, they state that "Seventh Victim" is "generally considered the greatest of Lewton's films," and also states that "Isle of the Dead" is his "masterpiece." "Cat People" is praised but dismissed at the same time, and "Curse of the Cat People" is considered a misfire. The Karloff films are generally praised as well.
All these decades later, and the two Cat People films seem most praised, with the Karloff movies usually only appreciated by fans of the actor. I know some Lewton fans who completely dismiss the later movies with Karloff. And "Seventh Victim" I found to be a total bore -- incredible that in the late '60s it was considered the "best" of his movies, especially when you rank it against "I Walked with a Zombie," which is better in every regard. Even "Leopard Man" is better -- saved for me just for that surreal-esque shot at the end of the film of the robed and hooded Catholic procession walking off into the fairytale-looking backlot skyline.