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Years ago the issue of who or what Lorre represented on the Lizard's Leg And Owlet's Wing episode of Roue 66 was discussed somewhere,--I think it was on this board--on the Web anyway, and I believe someone made the suggestion that he was in effect filling in for Bela Lugosi, and it seems that way to me having watched the show a couple of times since. Lorre is dressed a bit like Lugosi in vampire mode, and I believe that Karloff even makes a reference to the "swirling London fog" or some such to suggest something of a vampire or Jack the Ripper screen image that Lorre presumably had. I guess he was just the spooky guy, while the others in that episode had clearly defined personas. It was a "nostalgia episode" anyway, clearly referencing the Shock Theater films that had been sold to local TV stations some years earlier, and it probably resonated more strongly with Boomer/Monster kids than adults who grew up on going to those movies in the theater. Vincent Price was absent from the guest star lineup, and like Lorre he had no "monster identification", although he was developing a horror star one with the Roger Corman horrors he was making around the same time. But Price didn't have a classic era horror image, and he was a few years younger than the others. I can't see him fitting into that one anyway, as his stardom was still current and not primarily based on older films.blufeld wrote:Who was Peter Lorre supposed to be on the ROUTE 66, the Penguin? Boris was F, Lon was WM, Lorre had no monster he was identified with.telegonus wrote:Points well taken; and yet there was something about Peter Lorre himself, the mere sight of him, that by the Fifties had become almost a parody of him as a type. A rare case of an actor becoming his own Frank Gorshin maybe. In his prime Lorre was a great serious actor. He could bring dark humor to his characterizations, yet for all that he was a true Master.rvoyttbots wrote:
VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA & a many roles on TV including RAWHIDE, ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS, CASINO ROYALE, etc.
I remember, as a child, seeing Lorre in revivals of some of his fairly recent films at weekend matinees,--films like Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea--and the kids in the audience, hip to films like few people are today, and aware of who Peter Lorre was, got some laughs from him in certain scenes. Some scenes were maybe intentionally borderline funny; and there were those memories of seeing Lorre in Jerry Lewis movies and the like. Also, some of the old Warner Brothers cartoons that feature "Lorre figures", with Mel Blanc doing a spot on imitation of Lorre.
Another way to put it would be that in his later years Peter Lorre seemed to be carrying some baggage, funny baggage. Not always, and in many films not even most of the time, but it was there all the same. One can see hints of things to come from much earlier in Lorre's career. There are those moments of what I can best describe as "desultory hilarity" in the younger, slimmer Lorre. In his performance as Joel Cairo in The Maltese Falcon, for instance.
Serious or funny, menacing or playful, Peter Lorre was one of the greatest character actors of all time; and as he was also, now and again, a star player, he was one of the great stars as well. I hesitate to call him a true horror star, and yet I suppose that wouldn't be a million miles from the truth, either. He had that aura. An uncanny quality.
That photo was taken after Frankenstein performed the OTHER operation on the Monster. You know, the one the censors wouldn't allow to be shown on screen!TomWeaver999 wrote: Great color shot of Karloff as the Monster in FRANKENSTEIN "from the photograph experts with 35 years of experience":
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