Rob Kelly
Rob Kelly

10:44 PM - Feb 13, 2013 #21

I have some different camo fabric from the other trial uniforms produced in the 80s. If people want I can take some photos and put them up here.
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Jason Bobrowich
Jason Bobrowich

2:50 AM - Feb 14, 2013 #22

Rob,

For sure post images of the different patterns.
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9:46 PM - Mar 02, 2013 #23

It would be great to post those unique images of prototype and trial vehicles that are now just What Ifs.

Here are a couple of old images from the AVGP trials. It is apparent the Cougar in the trials does not look the same as the production model and what is that in the background? A V-150 with a 76 mm gun!

The Scorpion turret mounts a different style coffin bin and the British night sight is fitted to the right side of the main gun.

As well the DND censor tried to black out the MOWAG Piranha 6x6 and Cougar stencilling on the hull. Love the Piranha drawing!

Let's get those V-150, Fox, and Scimitar images posted as well as any other trial vehicle from over the years.











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Peter Hickey
Peter Hickey

4:06 AM - Mar 05, 2013 #24

..whats the thought behind that?...a rebuilt M109 with a big hydraulic thingy..yikes and a really big bullet launcher.

About what time frame was that trialled?

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1:12 PM - Mar 05, 2013 #25

I no longer have the source trial report, but I remember thinking it was late 80's early 90's.

The rebuilt M-109 is actually a FAASV; a very much in-service Ammo vehicle for M-109 units in other countries. Though I believe later versions of the FAASV did not have the hydraulic crane up front.

Canada had (has) a number of M114 guns that were replaced by the M-109. The longer calbre gun would have increased the range of the old 155mm, while the tracked ammo vehicle / gun tractor would have provided decent mobility. I'm not sure what cause the demise of the project after the guns (two, I think) had been built.

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Peter Hickey
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5:51 PM - Mar 05, 2013 #26

the wheels/tires on that big assed gun sure look like the wheels from the Tamiya Churchill Crocodile trailer....mmmmmm.

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Rob Kelly
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7:13 PM - Mar 05, 2013 #27

Rob,

For sure post images of the different patterns.
I cleaned up my hobby room to make room for more stuff. Now I have to find that fabric. It might be in the garage. Wait out.

None of them are Brit DPM style. They are unique. One is similar to a WW2 German mottled pattern and one has a bunch of eye shaped patterns. Interestingly, the colours are similiar to our Cadpat colours.
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8:30 PM - May 24, 2013 #28

It would be great to post those unique images of prototype and trial vehicles that are now just What Ifs.

Here are a couple of old images from the AVGP trials. It is apparent the Cougar in the trials does not look the same as the production model and what is that in the background? A V-150 with a 76 mm gun!

The Scorpion turret mounts a different style coffin bin and the British night sight is fitted to the right side of the main gun.

As well the DND censor tried to black out the MOWAG Piranha 6x6 and Cougar stencilling on the hull. Love the Piranha drawing!

Let's get those V-150, Fox, and Scimitar images posted as well as any other trial vehicle from over the years.





Looks like this is painted in the OD-Green-Black Canadian Scheme. I wonder if this was marketed at Canada? CG also made the 1m turret in the AVGP.



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8:57 PM - May 26, 2013 #29

It does look like the three colour pattern.

Indonesia uses/used them too with a similar cam pattern.

I wonder how it would fair in snow?
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Rob Kelly
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11:35 PM - Jun 12, 2013 #30

I cleaned up my hobby room to make room for more stuff. Now I have to find that fabric. It might be in the garage. Wait out.

None of them are Brit DPM style. They are unique. One is similar to a WW2 German mottled pattern and one has a bunch of eye shaped patterns. Interestingly, the colours are similiar to our Cadpat colours.
Went digging in the garage and found the fabric. These were made in the late to mid 80's. There was no science involved, the manufacturer just thought they would look cool. That's about all I can remember about them.

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The colors on this one are very close to Cadpat.

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