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wilesco steam valve used as a gas tank valve - will it work OK?

Perry02
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June 20th, 2018, 9:39 am #1

Hello , I'm looking for advice / opinion 

For my ongoing wilesco D305 upgrade I will have to make gas tank to feed bix burner.

Soon I will have  Wilesco 01601 steam valve and I just got idea to try and test it as a gas tank valve.

will this work or is it a bad idea?

Peter
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June 20th, 2018, 9:48 am #2

I know very little - but I know this idea scares me. 
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June 20th, 2018, 10:15 am #3

I would say it's a very bad idea. Steam valves are usually not very gas tight. 
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June 20th, 2018, 10:50 am #4

Certainly the worst idea ever ...
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June 20th, 2018, 11:27 am #5

OK, Im getting the picture, so is it ,as Roly pointed out,  problem with gas tightness of this valve?

Being a needle valve, I guess there is a seal on the needle shaft that either is or is not gas tight right?
I will look in to it once i got it.

this is the valve I'm talking about :
https://www.ebay.com/p/Wilesco-01601-DA ... 1061727061
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June 20th, 2018, 11:47 am #6

I think it is fair to say that gas fittings have to pass some BSI (ISO) standards to be legal to sell, and certain items need individual testing. This is not an area where I would take any short cuts.
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June 20th, 2018, 11:52 am #7

Like roly I would think they are not gas tight or at the very least because they are not designed for gas then would not have the tighter tolerances, correct seals or materials used to handle gas over a period of time without degrading.
I have not had a gas valve apart but picture they would contain a needle for finer control of gas. In the following link the needle does not appear to be fine for accurate control.
A gas valve from a reputable brand/company is designed to do the job and will be safe.


https://midhobby.dk/produkter/58-reserv ... udel-d-21/

I know gas setup is not cheap but buying a bix tank would be much more safer and less hassle
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June 20th, 2018, 12:13 pm #8

All said above sounds right and I do agree, it was just instatnt idea and I was interested to know opinions. I must make my own gas tank specificly for my project - none of the bix tanks will do.

thank you for all valuable imputs

Peter
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June 20th, 2018, 12:20 pm #9

Definately not, as the valve will be subjected to much higher pressures than a valve designed for a toy steam engine. My advice would be to buy a proper Bix gas tank, which will come fitted with a valve & certificate of pressure testing, rather than make your own. If you need one a specific size, Phil at Forest Classics has made me a couple of custom tanks in the past & I'm sure he would be more than happy to help you out. 
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June 20th, 2018, 2:26 pm #10

Well , do Bix tanks provide such features ?

If not , they are not mandatory ...
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They may just need pressure testing , say 10 bar for 2 bar user pressure ?
( certainly that case for Bixes ?... )
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