Fancy an SP2: price guidelines/anyone here might be interested in selling one?

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Fancy an SP2: price guidelines/anyone here might be interested in selling one?

Mattbod
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Joined: February 9th, 2018, 4:45 am

February 12th, 2018, 4:49 am #1

Please excuse a newbie for asking what must have been asked before. However I rather fancy an original Mamod and like the look of this one. I am a bit wary of the bay as I am not super practical and would want something I could enjoy without tinkering.Not fussed about gleaming metalwork as I use these things so interested in prices of honest, good runners rarher than cotton wool wrapped boxed minters. I would rather buy from a member of this community or a specialist tbh rather than "this is one foud in the loft, had it as a kid, dunno if it still works?" kind of stuff you see on the bay. I am a fairly impecunious student lol but if someone here is scaling down a collection out, has a couple or deals in vintage engines as a sideline I would be willing to have a chat at some point. I'm bidding on one at the moment on the bay restored by an enthusiast but feel sure I will miss out on it: bound to go for a lot  I'd say :/
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Wallace
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February 12th, 2018, 6:06 am #2

I truly don't know what a used SP2 is worth. I haven't really seen a lot turn up on ebay over the years. Maybe in the vicinity of 50=60 pound in average working condition.
Ebay can be a minefield. I have been burnt a number of times by being one step behind some sellers tricks.
Briefly what I have learnt.
1) If stating it is untested and it looks rough, bid accordingly (low) or avoid if you really don't want to get caught. This may mean missing bargains but it's a good way to be until you learn more about the engines. Also you can check the sellers other items and see if they have engines they claim are working. If so then no need to wonder why the one you might be looking at is untested.
2) If there are multiple pics and not all angles of the engine are covered, be wary or ask for more pics.
3) Avoid any engine with pink spots, white powdery spots or scale looking stuff on the end caps. It is most likely dezinc and best avoided.
4) Ask if the safety valve (and any other boiler fittings unscrew). If they spin and don't come out it will need significant work. If they are stuck they are still fixable but could present problems.
5) Ask if the engine turns over by hand freely.
6) Might be obvious but check that all parts are there and they are correct. I've seen missing pistons on engines they claim are working. Bolts or screws in boiler fittings can mean the thread is damaged. Of course spares like safety valves and such are available.
7) Avoid any engine that has been restored/repainted with the claim of "only tested on air since resto". Some genuinely won't test on steam for no other reason that they have put a lot of work into getting it looking prefect and unfortunately it can be the case that a "virgin" restored engine will make more money than one that has been restored and tested on steam once. But I have found it isn't worth it. One of my worst engine purchases was from a private collector who paid someone to restore every engine. Looked great, but the collector never fired them so was unaware of the restorers poor work. The engine was a hell of a mess when I steamed it.

Finally, if in doubt you can always post a link here, or contact a member via PM who offers any advice. I am more than happy to help where I can
Andrew


You don't have to always go looking for answers.
Sometimes you just need to listen......
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MrMamod
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February 12th, 2018, 11:48 am #3

Well we do have a couple of good honest Dealers who are members on here and Maybe send AlexinSuffolk as PM to ask if he has one he is selling 😉 .
Desperately seeking ( NOT Susan ) Mamod Minor Burners of ALL types :-)
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steamyjim
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February 12th, 2018, 7:25 pm #4

I'll have a look in the stores tomorrow - I reckon I've one or two that I'd be happy to sell...
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Mattbod
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Joined: February 9th, 2018, 4:45 am

February 12th, 2018, 7:29 pm #5

Ok thanks Wallace is kindly advising me on this and has very sensibly told me to take my time and watch out for zinc pest. He has appraised some of the ebay engines I have looked at and none have tempted me really so far. Would be happy to have a look :)

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Mattbod
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February 14th, 2018, 11:06 pm #6

Sorry guys I just realized the typo. I have an SP2 what I meant was SE2 sorry...
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magpie38
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February 15th, 2018, 6:41 am #7

l would thoroughly recommend an se3. large and great runners
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Mattbod
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February 15th, 2018, 5:04 pm #8

Yup just need to find a good un. I have put the word out.
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Mattbod
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February 15th, 2018, 5:07 pm #9

I would not mind one particularly a Griffin & George with the better quality silver soldered boiler but they are rare as the schools tended to neglect them i hear.
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magpie38
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February 16th, 2018, 7:52 am #10

How about this one on the bay at the moment 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mamod-Steam- ... SwgeBahbfJ
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