Who recognises this "AC"?

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Who recognises this "AC"?

Joined: March 9th, 2005, 8:03 pm

December 15th, 2005, 6:14 pm #1

Who knows this - said to be - british WWI armoured car? It is depicted in the Getty Images book "Cars" by Brian Laban with the caption "British armoured car crippled by enemy gunfire late in the war ..."

foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/92/625692/1024_3630663964656264.jpg

I have never seen something like this, anybody got any idea?
Last edited by Francois_Gousse on December 16th, 2005, 11:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Joined: March 25th, 2004, 5:53 pm

December 15th, 2005, 7:20 pm #2

About 20 of these served with the 1st Canadian Armoured Machine Gun Brigade from 1914 to 1918. Lieutenant Colonel Raymond Brutinel organized the Brigade and, with the help of wealthy Canadians, provided these vehicles. They were built by the Autocar Company of Ardmore, Pennsylvania, with armour supplied by Bethlehem Steel Corp, on a light truck chassis powered by a two-cylinder engine, with an armoured cab and folding panels on the open truck bed mounting two Colt machine guns on the center line. Vickers MGs replaced the Colts in England and the vehicles served as mobile machine gun posts, with heavy casualties.

Info from "War Cars: British Armoured Cars in the First World War" by David Fletcher.
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Joined: March 15th, 2004, 2:16 am

December 15th, 2005, 7:23 pm #3

Who knows this - said to be - british WWI armoured car? It is depicted in the Getty Images book "Cars" by Brian Laban with the caption "British armoured car crippled by enemy gunfire late in the war ..."

foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/92/625692/1024_3630663964656264.jpg

I have never seen something like this, anybody got any idea?
It's Canadian; built on the American Autocar chassis. Arriving in 1914, they were still around in late 1918. Depicted here after being overrun during Kaiserschlacht.
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Joined: March 5th, 2004, 1:20 pm

December 16th, 2005, 11:04 pm #4

Who knows this - said to be - british WWI armoured car? It is depicted in the Getty Images book "Cars" by Brian Laban with the caption "British armoured car crippled by enemy gunfire late in the war ..."

foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/92/625692/1024_3630663964656264.jpg

I have never seen something like this, anybody got any idea?
n/t

Regards from Canada.
Francois Gousse
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Joined: March 9th, 2005, 8:03 pm

December 21st, 2005, 2:06 pm #5

Who knows this - said to be - british WWI armoured car? It is depicted in the Getty Images book "Cars" by Brian Laban with the caption "British armoured car crippled by enemy gunfire late in the war ..."

foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/92/625692/1024_3630663964656264.jpg

I have never seen something like this, anybody got any idea?
Thanks for the info. Does anyone know of other pics of these cars as I did not find any?
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Joined: January 10th, 2006, 11:57 pm

January 11th, 2006, 12:10 am #6

I have a lot of photos of these armoured cars used by the two Canadaian Motor Machine Gun Brigades in WW1. Most are from the Gov. Archives , but I have 2 of the car my grandfather rode in .
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Joined: December 9th, 2002, 1:25 am

January 20th, 2006, 3:42 pm #7

n/t

Regards from Canada.
Francois Gousse
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A point on copyright. This photo is in the public domain as copyright has expired. Some people/companies may claim control over the reproduction of the image because they have possession of a print. This is a different matter.
Assuming that copyright has expired. If an original piece of art exists in a museum and I wish to reproduce the image in a book then I may have to pay a fee to the museum to use 'their' image. In the case of a photograph. If I can obtain a print from any other source then I can reproduce that print with no fee or credit to anyone.
This leads to scenarios where I can find a photo at the IWM and must pay them to use the photo in a book. If I find the same photo at Cdn Archives, I can obtain a print from them and use it at no charge. The difference is not a copyright issue but a policy issue on how these two institutions raise revenue.
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Joined: December 9th, 2002, 1:25 am

January 20th, 2006, 3:43 pm #8

I have a lot of photos of these armoured cars used by the two Canadaian Motor Machine Gun Brigades in WW1. Most are from the Gov. Archives , but I have 2 of the car my grandfather rode in .
I see that you have 2 images other than those found at Archives. Can you please contact me off-line about these? Thnx, Clive.
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