What's a Good Match for West Germany Paint Used in their T-72 in the Soviet Era ?

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What's a Good Match for West Germany Paint Used in their T-72 in the Soviet Era ?

Joined: November 14th, 2005, 3:00 pm

May 22nd, 2012, 2:10 pm #1

Hi, all.


Do the west germans had their own painting scheme for the T-72 or the color was the same one used by the soviets at the same period ? I already have a good match for the soviet color. I would need references only if the german color was different.


Any input will be welcome.

Best regards.


André Lutti.
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May 22nd, 2012, 2:41 pm #2

I'm not sure if the West Germans (FRG) repainted the T-72s after they absorbed the former East German (DDR) army tanks. I do know they wanted to give some to the US for OPFOR use, all we had to do was pay to move them to California. It would be interesting to see former DDR tanks painted in Bundeswher NATO 3-color camouflage. Revell released some of the modern Soviet armor kits in Bundeswehr markings.

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May 22nd, 2012, 3:25 pm #3

Hi, all.


Do the west germans had their own painting scheme for the T-72 or the color was the same one used by the soviets at the same period ? I already have a good match for the soviet color. I would need references only if the german color was different.


Any input will be welcome.

Best regards.


André Lutti.
I suppose you are talking about East German T-72s as West Germany had this tracked thingy called the Leopard 1 and 2.

East German T-72s were painted in chlorbunagrün SM which was not standardised in the RAL system and also tended to weather pretty quickly, but apparently RAL 6003 is a pretty close match. Be aware that it is a semi-gloss paint, Revell 361 and Modelmaster medium green 1713E have both been cited as good matches by former crewmen and modelers.

None of the T-72s entered the inventory of the Bundeswehr and most of them were scrapped. If it is important, only a very few of the T-72s were Soviet-built, most of them came from Czechoslovakia.

Cheers,

Jens



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Joined: November 14th, 2005, 3:00 pm

May 22nd, 2012, 4:17 pm #4

Hi, all.


Do the west germans had their own painting scheme for the T-72 or the color was the same one used by the soviets at the same period ? I already have a good match for the soviet color. I would need references only if the german color was different.


Any input will be welcome.

Best regards.


André Lutti.
Sorry. My bad.


I thank you both for your input, but could anyone give a match in terms of Tamiya colors ? I have a hard time buying these more sofisticated colors as american stores don't sell paints to others countries (I'm im Brazil).


Any other inputs will be most welcome.


Cheers.


André Lutti.
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May 22nd, 2012, 9:04 pm #5

Hey

Some EX East German soldiers told me, the best
hobby paint for NVA equipment is the Vallejo
Model Air, Verde Panzer / Tank green No. 71011.

Best regards
Kjeld Pedersen


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May 23rd, 2012, 1:54 am #6

Hi, all.


Do the west germans had their own painting scheme for the T-72 or the color was the same one used by the soviets at the same period ? I already have a good match for the soviet color. I would need references only if the german color was different.


Any input will be welcome.

Best regards.


André Lutti.
East Germany used both the single dark green colour and a three colour scheme consisting of a lighter green, medium grey, and black as well.

http://www.ipmslondon.ca/old%20site/ipm ... /id11.html
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May 23rd, 2012, 6:41 am #7

Yes,

the three-colour scheme was used on a relative limited amount of equipment as well and consisted of olivgrün 2425, dämmergrau 2403 (1 part Humbrol 32 and 5 parts 156) and schwarzgrau 2402 (Humbrol 182).

AFAIK there are no Tamiya matches for the green base colour and none of the NVA modelers I know use Vallejo, if it matches the Revell or Model Master paints referenced above, it would certainly be an alternative. Although somewhat dated, the colour conversion chart of IPMS Stockholm still is a great quick guide: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... umbrol.htm or try "The Ultimate Model Paint Conversion Chart" at http://www.paint4models.com/ .

HTH,

Jens

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May 23rd, 2012, 7:27 am #8

Hi, all.


Do the west germans had their own painting scheme for the T-72 or the color was the same one used by the soviets at the same period ? I already have a good match for the soviet color. I would need references only if the german color was different.


Any input will be welcome.

Best regards.


André Lutti.
Hi guys,

very intereseting thread indeed...
Ever since buying the Concord T-72 book with pictures of an NVA T-72 (model mark eludes me at this point), I've been wanting to do this one - with the Hornet NVA figure standing in front of it # ; - ))

It seems to me, that the single-colour scheme, has a lighter somewhat grey-green hue to it ???
Definately not the usual russian standard green.

I will look into the different options offered - thanks for the advice.

Have a great summer y'all..

best regards,

Mike H
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May 23rd, 2012, 2:05 pm #9

Have you thought about Tamiya Field grey XF-65?

This link has some pics of the former NVA:
http://www.wildlifeuk.net/the-berlin-wall-t-2947.html

(Scroll down towards end.)

best regards,


Marc Brandes

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May 24th, 2012, 3:57 pm #10

Hi, all.


Do the west germans had their own painting scheme for the T-72 or the color was the same one used by the soviets at the same period ? I already have a good match for the soviet color. I would need references only if the german color was different.


Any input will be welcome.

Best regards.


André Lutti.
Thank You Very Much for Your Input ! (n/t)
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