what kind of Sherman was Tamar

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what kind of Sherman was Tamar

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July 16th, 2012, 9:20 pm #1


I am sure Lion and Lioness v. 5 answer this, but I don't have that book. Two conflicting Israeli tank books I do have by Steve Zaloga say it was an M4A3 and then an M4A2. I think also the Verlinden War Machines book I have says M4A2. But then there is a build on the IDF modeling site that is an M4 late type. So was it an M4, M4A2 or M4A3?

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July 16th, 2012, 10:02 pm #2

Tamar was actually a 105mm m4 sherman regunned with an m3 75mm gun, the bogies were the late return style, the road wheels are the dished type with first three being stamped, the late production flat drive sprocket was fitted and a 30 calibre was fitted to the turret top (depepending on what period the photos are of the tank)a sherman stwoage bin was welded to the turret and there was also a strowage rack on the rear. Hope it helps
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July 16th, 2012, 11:04 pm #3

was thinking if it was an M4A2 I could model it (since I have a spare A2 hull).
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July 17th, 2012, 6:06 am #4

I am sure Lion and Lioness v. 5 answer this, but I don't have that book. Two conflicting Israeli tank books I do have by Steve Zaloga say it was an M4A3 and then an M4A2. I think also the Verlinden War Machines book I have says M4A2. But then there is a build on the IDF modeling site that is an M4 late type. So was it an M4, M4A2 or M4A3?
No problem you could always model the first shermna in IDF service MEIR if you wanted to as MEIR was based on an m4a2 chassis
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July 17th, 2012, 4:27 pm #5

I have a late M4A2 hull from the Academy Russian 76mm Sherman.
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July 17th, 2012, 9:02 pm #6

Sorry David i had a mind mealt there i assumed you had just the normal m4a2 kit not the Russian m4a2 kit sorry again
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July 17th, 2012, 10:59 pm #7

I just never built the Soviet M4A2 and can part it out for other projects. I could redo the engine deck and make an M4 out of it... Or use the engine deck on the Tamiya M4 to make an early M4A2... I have an assortment of Sherman parts kits and stuff left from an M50 project. I like these post-war hybrid tanks.
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July 17th, 2012, 11:59 pm #8

Thanks for that mate..... it sounds like you have some great plans i know there was a picture in Tom Gannons book of a ? m4a2 with that type of hull with an m50 turret used as a fortification in the middle of a beach and fishing west of Kibbutz Hanita near the Israel- Lebanese border (pgs 116 and 117)food for thought.... No matter what you do would love to see it when done
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July 18th, 2012, 12:33 am #9

I just purchased a copy of Mr. Gannon's book. I should get it this week or so. I really like tanks from the 67 and 73 wars but have got some interest in the 1940s and 50s Shermans as well.
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July 18th, 2012, 2:33 am #10

Yes indeed it is a great book then there are the books from Robert Mansherob they are great as well..... I started looking at the M51 then the interest grew from there so did the modle collection i started with just one now i think its out to about 40 model kits and the plans to do as many of the sherman variations as possible... talk about hooked
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