Joined: February 27th, 2005, 9:41 am

July 14th, 2018, 6:20 am #41

I robbed the Esci/Italeri 25 Pounder & Quad kit of its limber and some figures...

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Mark
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 9:41 am

July 14th, 2018, 12:32 pm #42

Limber now painted...

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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 9:41 am

July 15th, 2018, 11:17 am #43

All finished on a tank-biscuit with figures, and an enjoyable 10-day build; although slightly spoiled by the belated discovery that this vehicle should be brown, not green! Well, you live and learn, so now to decide my next project...

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July 15th, 2018, 2:10 pm #44

Great little diorama, busy enough, and well planned!! A lot of really good work went into this!!
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Joined: April 28th, 2005, 2:06 pm

July 15th, 2018, 2:27 pm #45

It's a pity you never waited for a reply about the roundel.   The type used was the prewar I;3:5 ration type with a narrow yellow outline and bright colours.  You used the contemporary  RAF fuselage type which wouldn't show up above about 400 feet or so.   The roundel upper marking was introduced for 8th Army in June 1942, the size, proportions and locations are specified in a MEGO.   For 1st Army in Tunisia there was no specified air recognition marking, but experience  showed a requirement therefor several units of their own accord applied a white star to top surfaces.  This was done since the USAAF wouldn't recognise any other marking.  Air-ground 'friendly fire' had become a serious problem.  The roundel was then adopted for all formations of 15th Army Group for the Sicilian and Italian campaigns.   It remained in use until replaced in May 1944 by a white outlined star then adopted by all allied formations in Italy and NWE.  Even as late as May 1945 the roundel could still seen on top surfaces of some supporting vehicles.  May I suggest mailing me mikestarmer18 at gmail dot com for more information about British schemes and policy.
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July 15th, 2018, 4:39 pm #46

Are the figures the exact same scale?  they look a little large to me. But it could be an optical illusion.
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July 15th, 2018, 6:29 pm #47

Mikestarmer wrote: It's a pity you never waited for a reply about the roundel.   The type used was the prewar I;3:5 ration type with a narrow yellow outline and bright colours.  You used the contemporary  RAF fuselage type which wouldn't show up above about 400 feet or so.   The roundel upper marking was introduced for 8th Army in June 1942, the size, proportions and locations are specified in a MEGO.   For 1st Army in Tunisia there was no specified air recognition marking, but experience  showed a requirement therefor several units of their own accord applied a white star to top surfaces.  This was done since the USAAF wouldn't recognise any other marking.  Air-ground 'friendly fire' had become a serious problem.  The roundel was then adopted for all formations of 15th Army Group for the Sicilian and Italian campaigns.   It remained in use until replaced in May 1944 by a white outlined star then adopted by all allied formations in Italy and NWE.  Even as late as May 1945 the roundel could still seen on top surfaces of some supporting vehicles.  May I suggest mailing me mikestarmer18 at gmail dot com for more information about British schemes and policy.
Hi Mike,

Upon reflection, I decided since it was the wrong colour the roundel I used would be close enough. It's off a WW2 Supermarine Walrus and was the only decal I had that was close to the correct size. Once I knew the colour was inaccurate I thought it best just to finish, and I feel the ratios are close to the photo you provided.

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I'll be in touch via email as requested.
Cheers,
Mark
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 9:41 am

July 15th, 2018, 6:43 pm #48

David Wormell wrote: Are the figures the exact same scale?  they look a little large to me. But it could be an optical illusion.
Hi David,

The figures are from the 1/72 Esci/Italeri 25 Pounder & Quad kit (three of them chopped up and modified for poses). They suffer from slightly over-sized arms and hands but were the best I had at the time. The Valentine's was, of course, a small chassis, and the Bishop's fighting compartment was quite cramped despite its appearance...

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These pics (one of the actual vehicle) show crew working around the vehicle...
 
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Mark
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Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 11:55 pm

July 15th, 2018, 7:34 pm #49

Thanks,that makes sense.
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July 15th, 2018, 10:19 pm #50

This looks superb Dave, a great little dio done very nicely.
Well done mate.
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