universal carrier

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universal carrier

Joined: May 12th, 2018, 8:22 pm

May 13th, 2018, 11:02 am #1

Hi, new here, I was told by the guy from star decals that this was a good place to go for info.  I'm trying to make a model of a universal carrier that a friend of mine was in, in North Africa and Italy during the war.  What I want to do is present it to the local military museum in his name.  He is 98 and cannot remember some of the details except that he was in the  rifle brigade and was in the 6th armoured division.  I know the 6th emblem was a mailed fist but I need to find out any other markings that would have been on the carrier. Any other info would be great, thank,  J.
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Joined: April 22nd, 2005, 4:32 am

May 18th, 2018, 4:30 pm #2

If he was in the Rifle Brigade and if he served with the division in both North Afica and Italy he would have been with the
26th Armoured Brigade 
(9th November 1940 to 2nd May 1944) in the 10th Battalion, Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own) 
(15th January 1941 to 29th May 1944) 

26th Armoured Brigade markings here:

http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/al ... ngs-01.jpg

then switching to the

61st Infantry Brigade (29th May 1944 to 31st August 1945) 
10th Battalion Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own) (30th May 1944 to 20th March 1945)

This is the only Rifle Brigade battalion that remained with the division throughout according to this source:

https://www.quartermastersection.com/br ... 71/6armdiv

HTH regards,

Gary D.
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Joined: June 23rd, 2003, 4:53 pm

May 18th, 2018, 5:50 pm #3

If the 10RB was organic to 6AD, I’d expect it to carry 6AD formation sign rather than that of the subordinate infantry brigade but there were plenty of anomalies in 8th Army and sometimes both were carried so I’d need to dig a bit for that and the appropriate AoS marking given the seniority issue which determined the number.
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Joined: April 4th, 2005, 1:23 am

May 18th, 2018, 11:12 pm #4

Hi Jerry, I've sent you a private message.
Cheers,
Carlos
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Joined: April 28th, 2018, 8:53 am

May 21st, 2018, 11:35 am #5

This post is also of interest to me because I am working on a diorama, including a Universal Carrier, set in the hills near Florence in the second half of 1944.

Initially I had hoped to feature Canadian or even Polish troops, but from what I can gather they were either on the Adriatic side - or had been withdrawn to be sent to Normandy.

So if it's the Brits, can anyone suggest the best decal options? I am not wedded to any particular unit, just something which won't get me laughed out of my next show.

For example I have found this on the web:

Sherman and Stuart reconnaissance tank of the 2nd Lothian and Border Horse, British 6th Armoured Division, near Rufina, Italy 12 September 1944.jpg

A Sherman and Stuart reconnaissance tank of the 2nd Lothian and Border Horse, part of the British 6th Armoured Division, near Rufina, Italy, 12 September 1944. 

No idea if they would have Universal Carriers.

This is not my area of expertise, so please treat me gently...
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Joined: March 21st, 2006, 4:00 pm

June 9th, 2018, 3:36 pm #6

Hi Tim,

Not the 2nd Lothian and Border Horse, but another part of the British 6th Armoured Division, 1st Derbyshire Yeomanry, which also had both Shermans and Stuarts (M3A3 at least), so perhaps they had Universal Carrier in their recce.
Anyway, here is a colourplate from Militaria magazine No.136, showing a Stuart recce. The illustration also sports a M4A2 ('Coton in the Elms') of the same unit; AoS are identical. If you -or anyone else- is interested in the M4A2 colourplate, I can post it here.

Theo
M3A3 6AD.jpg
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Joined: April 28th, 2018, 8:53 am

June 9th, 2018, 7:13 pm #7

Thanks so much Theo. That's the sort of precision (from those in the know) that I'm after!

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