Simulating Rust on Muffler

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Simulating Rust on Muffler

D. McKeever
D. McKeever

May 20th, 2003, 8:55 am #1

How does one mix a convicning color for rest. I am unpersuaded by the commerical offerings. Also, on the muffler of a tank, how does one simuluate the rough texture that arises from the severe heat....?

Best Wishes,

David
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D. McKeever
D. McKeever

May 20th, 2003, 9:02 am #2

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Ian Barraclough
Ian Barraclough

May 20th, 2003, 10:08 am #3

I use two methods:
1) Coat the item to be rusted(?) in white glue (wood glue), then dip it into baking soda. Blow off the excess baking soda and allow to dry. Then paint with thinned Humbrol 62, and wash with black oils.

2) Paint the part with any rust coloured paint, then spinkle ground down artists pastels (Chalks). I use a number of colours, mainly brick red and dark rust. Again allow to dry and wash with dark coloured oils.

You also could try a mixture of the two ideas, just experiment...
Hope this helps

Ian
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D. McKeever
D. McKeever

May 20th, 2003, 10:27 am #4

Is it possible to use either of these techiques after the base coat has been applied?

Best Wishes,

David
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Tom Herling
Tom Herling

May 20th, 2003, 11:17 am #5

How does one mix a convicning color for rest. I am unpersuaded by the commerical offerings. Also, on the muffler of a tank, how does one simuluate the rough texture that arises from the severe heat....?

Best Wishes,

David
Another method is to mix various rust shades with talc (or baby powder).

Martyn Welch's "The Art of Weathering" is a must-read for any modeler. Although it's written for the railroad types, all of his ideas for weathering techniques are applicable to armor, as are his methods for weathering buildings.

I ordered my copy through Amazon.uk. I don't know if you can get it through any American domestic bookseller.

Tom
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Mark Clark
Mark Clark

May 20th, 2003, 1:19 pm #6

How does one mix a convicning color for rest. I am unpersuaded by the commerical offerings. Also, on the muffler of a tank, how does one simuluate the rough texture that arises from the severe heat....?

Best Wishes,

David
After finding this idea in a model mag I use liquid paper for texture. It not only gives me the surface I want but the parting line disappears if the muffler is in two parts or more. I use it on barrels or any where I want to get rid of cracks or lines and after it dries it is sandable. I paint my mufflers with testors rust and a light wash of black.
MKC
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D. McKeever
D. McKeever

May 20th, 2003, 4:36 pm #7

How does one mix a convicning color for rest. I am unpersuaded by the commerical offerings. Also, on the muffler of a tank, how does one simuluate the rough texture that arises from the severe heat....?

Best Wishes,

David
I am going to try the talc method. WHen I went to the drug store, I only remembered talcum powder. I wish I remembered that talcum powder and talc were the same thing. I was told that I did purchase is talc powder, but it does not say talcum powder anywhere.

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David
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Brian Dumas
Brian Dumas

May 20th, 2003, 6:26 pm #8

Here in the States, talc is being replaced by cornstarch.
Talc has been found to be a carcinogen at high enough levels, and generally dangerous to babies (who are exposed to it the most).
That may be why you can't find it listed anywhere.

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Ian Barraclough
Ian Barraclough

May 20th, 2003, 11:13 pm #9

Is it possible to use either of these techiques after the base coat has been applied?

Best Wishes,

David
The above methods can be used after a base coat, but are better off done raw, i.e with no base coat. If you can leave the parts off 'till after the primer than it will look better.

Ian
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Brian Fendley
Brian Fendley

May 23rd, 2003, 8:51 am #10

How does one mix a convicning color for rest. I am unpersuaded by the commerical offerings. Also, on the muffler of a tank, how does one simuluate the rough texture that arises from the severe heat....?

Best Wishes,

David
.........It worked for me.
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