Recognition stripes on M51 in 1967, common?

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Recognition stripes on M51 in 1967, common?

Joined: July 12th, 2005, 8:55 am

February 2nd, 2012, 3:34 pm #1

How common were the black-white-black recognition stripes on M51's in 1967?
Were they on the turret top, engine deck or both?

I have seen very few, if any, photos of M51's with these stripes. They seem common on M50's, M1's and AMX13's, all on the turret top and possibly on the engine deck of M50's and M1's too.

TIA,
Erik L
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Joined: December 5th, 2006, 11:49 pm

February 2nd, 2012, 11:02 pm #2

Erik- From my research on IDF tanks, the stripe you refer to was called a "Yanush"( forgive my spelling) stripe. It was named after an IDf Tank Commnder. In my research it was not used untill after the 73' Yom Kippur war. It was used as an aid to for the TC to quickly sight the main gun at night. You may want to go over to IDF In Scale and check it out. If anyone else knows more info please feel free to add to my comments.
Good luck
Joe Bevans
AMPS 2nd VP West region
AMPS SO Cal
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February 2nd, 2012, 11:25 pm #3

Hi Joe,
Thanks, but the stripe I'm interested in is the wide white stripe with black edges painted on IDF vehicles (Sherman tanks, AMX-13's, halftracks and softskins) in 1967, during the Six day war.

I have seen this on M50 Shermans, M1 Shermans and AMX-13's (no Pattons or Centurions), painted on the turret roof (and engine deck?). On halftracks, jeeps and trucks it was on the rear door and as a 'T' on the hood and front fenders.

As I'm building Tamiya's M51 I'm thinking about adding it on the turret roof but I have no photos of M51's with it, M50's yes but M51's no.

Erik L
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February 3rd, 2012, 2:22 am #4

The air stripe was not always a t on the wheeled vehicles. Sometimes it was just the stripe. It appears to have no rhyme or reason as to the stripe vs T. As far as the M51 wearing a Air stripe, I do not think they ever did. However, most all my combat reference photos show the vehicle at ground level.
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Joined: April 19th, 2005, 10:07 pm

February 3rd, 2012, 3:07 am #5

There are photos of M51s returning from the Golan in 1967, with the air recognition stripe on the turret top. They look to be crudely painted, with runs evident. I haven't yet come across a good view to see if they also appear on the deck.

Tom
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February 3rd, 2012, 3:27 am #6

Now you pipe in!!!!! Where were those photos in your book? haha!!!
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February 3rd, 2012, 8:30 pm #7

How common were the black-white-black recognition stripes on M51's in 1967?
Were they on the turret top, engine deck or both?

I have seen very few, if any, photos of M51's with these stripes. They seem common on M50's, M1's and AMX13's, all on the turret top and possibly on the engine deck of M50's and M1's too.

TIA,
Erik L
Erik
You are right with your observation.
M51 with Rec stripes were rare. Thus I suggest that if you care of accuracy and interest to apply them, than build a specific tank that you have a photo of it with such stripes.
Robert

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Joined: July 12th, 2005, 8:55 am

February 4th, 2012, 2:54 pm #8

How common were the black-white-black recognition stripes on M51's in 1967?
Were they on the turret top, engine deck or both?

I have seen very few, if any, photos of M51's with these stripes. They seem common on M50's, M1's and AMX13's, all on the turret top and possibly on the engine deck of M50's and M1's too.

TIA,
Erik L
Thanks all who replied. I'll leave the stripe off but add it to my M50.

Erik L
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