Identify of Pz-IV's

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Identify of Pz-IV's

Joined: November 20th, 2006, 11:10 am

May 29th, 2017, 7:31 pm #1

Need help with identity of these Pz-IV's. To what unit they may be attached?

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Joined: September 21st, 2012, 7:21 am

May 30th, 2017, 3:57 am #2

I am not sure of the unit of the Panzer IVs, probably either Wiking or Totenkopf but the building in the background has a 6fh Panzer division marking on it. Just above the leg of the reclined crewman on the drivers hatch.
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Last edited by TrevorW88 on May 30th, 2017, 3:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Joined: September 21st, 2012, 7:21 am

May 31st, 2017, 2:27 am #3

I did a little more research. The 6th Panzer division and Das Reich were both in the LIX Army Corps, in early 1944. Given the state of the ground, I am speculating the photo is from or around the time of the Korsun-Cherkassy Pocket or the battle of Tarnopol.

I had originally discounted Das Reich due to the style of Turret numbering. I have seen photos of the 6th company's of Das Reichs, Panzer IVs, from the same time period and the style of sign writing of the numbers are very different.


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Joined: November 20th, 2006, 11:10 am

May 31st, 2017, 6:17 pm #4

DR, hmm, Interesting. But I think this is TK, although there is no evidence yet.
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Joined: July 7th, 2005, 10:06 pm

June 4th, 2017, 2:02 am #5

Good catch on the 6PD sign on the barn. It may be TK. I see a collar tab mark on the guy sitting on the gun barrel looks like a single central mark rather than the SS runes. Also in Trang's Totenkopf p.415 is a picture of #701 with very similar numbering & balkenkreuz location. The caption reads "...end of the year on 1944 in Hungary." I think 6PD was also in Hungary around that time, but unsure of their proximity to TK.
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