Help with Ammunition trailer for Sd.Kfz.7 mit Flak 37 3.7 cm

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Help with Ammunition trailer for Sd.Kfz.7 mit Flak 37 3.7 cm

Joined: November 8th, 2003, 4:32 am

January 9th, 2012, 6:48 pm #1

I have two of the Dragon 6542 kits, and would like to see about building one towing one of the ammunition trailers often seen with this variant of 8 ton tractor.

Trumpeter makes an Sd.Kfz.7 with a trailer called a "Sd.Anhanger 52" trailer, but the tractor itself has the Flak 38 20mm quad gun rather than the single 3.7 cm Flak gun that I have, and the trailer looks quite different than the pictures I have seen with the Flak 37 equipped tractors. The trailer in the Trumpeter kit is quite petite in comparison, with the Flak 37 ammo trailer being quite a bit bulkier and taller in profile.

Can anyone help me with a nomenclature/designation, so I can try to source one of these trailers?

TIA,

Scott Gentry
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Joined: November 20th, 2002, 11:27 pm

January 9th, 2012, 7:31 pm #2

Hello Scott,

the trailer you are looking for is called Sonderanhaenger 57 (Sd.Ah. 57).
A kit in 1:35 is offered by the Wiener Modellbaumanufaktur.

Due to several requests I had regarding that topic, I have submited a line drawing generated some years ago for publishing at the German IPMS Homepage yesterday. It should be posted there within the next days.
HTH
Gert
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Joined: February 9th, 2011, 11:44 pm

January 9th, 2012, 10:00 pm #3

I have two of the Dragon 6542 kits, and would like to see about building one towing one of the ammunition trailers often seen with this variant of 8 ton tractor.

Trumpeter makes an Sd.Kfz.7 with a trailer called a "Sd.Anhanger 52" trailer, but the tractor itself has the Flak 38 20mm quad gun rather than the single 3.7 cm Flak gun that I have, and the trailer looks quite different than the pictures I have seen with the Flak 37 equipped tractors. The trailer in the Trumpeter kit is quite petite in comparison, with the Flak 37 ammo trailer being quite a bit bulkier and taller in profile.

Can anyone help me with a nomenclature/designation, so I can try to source one of these trailers?

TIA,

Scott Gentry
Didn't Broco make a trailer for the 37mm Flak?
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Joined: November 20th, 2002, 11:27 pm

January 9th, 2012, 10:08 pm #4

This was also possible, but it is not the regular trailer but
if ever used in praxis only a field modification.
Gert
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January 10th, 2012, 2:36 am #5

Hello Scott,

the trailer you are looking for is called Sonderanhaenger 57 (Sd.Ah. 57).
A kit in 1:35 is offered by the Wiener Modellbaumanufaktur.

Due to several requests I had regarding that topic, I have submited a line drawing generated some years ago for publishing at the German IPMS Homepage yesterday. It should be posted there within the next days.
HTH
Gert
Thanks again!

Scott Gentry
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Joined: August 8th, 2003, 5:44 pm

January 10th, 2012, 3:56 am #6

I have two of the Dragon 6542 kits, and would like to see about building one towing one of the ammunition trailers often seen with this variant of 8 ton tractor.

Trumpeter makes an Sd.Kfz.7 with a trailer called a "Sd.Anhanger 52" trailer, but the tractor itself has the Flak 38 20mm quad gun rather than the single 3.7 cm Flak gun that I have, and the trailer looks quite different than the pictures I have seen with the Flak 37 equipped tractors. The trailer in the Trumpeter kit is quite petite in comparison, with the Flak 37 ammo trailer being quite a bit bulkier and taller in profile.

Can anyone help me with a nomenclature/designation, so I can try to source one of these trailers?

TIA,

Scott Gentry
I am currently wrestling with this exact problem, I need a trailer for my Mercedes Maultier. Take a look @ my blog & see if this helps answers some of your questions..http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums ... 52397&p=34
If you can add anything to help please do.
Ron.
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January 10th, 2012, 10:24 am #7

Ron

The subject of the SdAh 56/57 comes up from time to time, even as recentley as a few weeks ago - see this board 23rd Dec 2011. I'll send you a copy of the Type 41 1500kg Baumuster handbook later today. I hope it proves useful.

As Gert says, it's probable that an ammo locker from the 56 was mounted on a 52 chassis at some time as a field mod but the 52 chassis is not the chassis used for the 56/57, it was the Baumuster.

The Bronco "52" quite correct and an excelent kit. I wish they would do the same for the "56/57".

Nick
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January 10th, 2012, 5:37 pm #8

I have two of the Dragon 6542 kits, and would like to see about building one towing one of the ammunition trailers often seen with this variant of 8 ton tractor.

Trumpeter makes an Sd.Kfz.7 with a trailer called a "Sd.Anhanger 52" trailer, but the tractor itself has the Flak 38 20mm quad gun rather than the single 3.7 cm Flak gun that I have, and the trailer looks quite different than the pictures I have seen with the Flak 37 equipped tractors. The trailer in the Trumpeter kit is quite petite in comparison, with the Flak 37 ammo trailer being quite a bit bulkier and taller in profile.

Can anyone help me with a nomenclature/designation, so I can try to source one of these trailers?

TIA,

Scott Gentry
Trumpeter's 7/2 and 7/1 late kits have what they call a Sd.Ah. 52 but is actually closer to the 56/57 but not totally right for those either. It has the right body wheels and fenders but the wrong frame and suspension. The 56/57 was the same except for the inners with the 56 having the loadout for the 20mm and the 57 for the 37mm. There was also an early and a late version with the early version having a square box body and the later having a rounded top

Roy
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January 10th, 2012, 7:51 pm #9

Ron

The subject of the SdAh 56/57 comes up from time to time, even as recentley as a few weeks ago - see this board 23rd Dec 2011. I'll send you a copy of the Type 41 1500kg Baumuster handbook later today. I hope it proves useful.

As Gert says, it's probable that an ammo locker from the 56 was mounted on a 52 chassis at some time as a field mod but the 52 chassis is not the chassis used for the 56/57, it was the Baumuster.

The Bronco "52" quite correct and an excelent kit. I wish they would do the same for the "56/57".

Nick
That is very nice of you.
As for details explaining the different platforms used to carry the Ammo box, all this is covered in the blog.
The Sd.Ah.41 is the chassis of choice for the 56/57 box.
It has the 8 bolt wheel where the 52 is only a 6 bolt wheel.
The 42 frame work is correct to photos. This was a base for several different box/houses used by the German trailer manufactures.
CMK's # T35005 3.7 flak has a 8 bolt trailer that could be used/modified if accuracy weren't too much of a concern.
I am no expert, just a guy sitting in his basement trying to get it right.!
Ron
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Joined: November 20th, 2002, 11:27 pm

January 12th, 2012, 10:01 pm #10

I have two of the Dragon 6542 kits, and would like to see about building one towing one of the ammunition trailers often seen with this variant of 8 ton tractor.

Trumpeter makes an Sd.Kfz.7 with a trailer called a "Sd.Anhanger 52" trailer, but the tractor itself has the Flak 38 20mm quad gun rather than the single 3.7 cm Flak gun that I have, and the trailer looks quite different than the pictures I have seen with the Flak 37 equipped tractors. The trailer in the Trumpeter kit is quite petite in comparison, with the Flak 37 ammo trailer being quite a bit bulkier and taller in profile.

Can anyone help me with a nomenclature/designation, so I can try to source one of these trailers?

TIA,

Scott Gentry
Hello Scott,
probably it will take some time (our webmaster is currently not available)
until my line drawings will be online.
Therefore, please send me a mail and I will send you the drawing.
Regards
Gert
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