Help me pick an airbrush - Aztek A4305 vs A4702.

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Help me pick an airbrush - Aztek A4305 vs A4702.

Jeff Andrews
Jeff Andrews

November 30th, 2003, 12:54 am #1

Hello.

Is there a review anywere on these airbrushes?

The A4702 Set is $99.95
and has....
A470 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle / .40 mm
7.5 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
Instruction manual
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case
Instruction manual & video

The A4305 Set is $79.95
and has...
A430 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle /.40 mm
3 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
10 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
28 mm Siphon cap & bottle
Instruction manual &video
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case

How is it possible that the 4305 has more stuff
but is cheaper?
This doesn't add up.

All comments, opinions, and recomendations are welcome.
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Scott Gentry
Scott Gentry

November 30th, 2003, 5:56 am #2

Spend the $100 on an Iwata Eclipse or Revolution...

You won't be sorry. I have both, and you can have me Aztek, but you definitely CANNOT have my Iwata.

HTH,

Scott Gentry

Check out bear-air and dixie art.com

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Jakko Westerbeke
Jakko Westerbeke

November 30th, 2003, 11:09 am #3

Hello.

Is there a review anywere on these airbrushes?

The A4702 Set is $99.95
and has....
A470 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle / .40 mm
7.5 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
Instruction manual
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case
Instruction manual & video

The A4305 Set is $79.95
and has...
A430 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle /.40 mm
3 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
10 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
28 mm Siphon cap & bottle
Instruction manual &video
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case

How is it possible that the 4305 has more stuff
but is cheaper?
This doesn't add up.

All comments, opinions, and recomendations are welcome.
The A470 is a more complicated airbrush — it's basically the same as the 430, but with an extra adjustment wheel that lets you control how far open the nozzle is, so that you can use it both as a single- and a double-action airbrush. I would guess this is why the 470 is the more expensive of the two sets, even though it has fewer accessories.
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Barry Davis
Barry Davis

November 30th, 2003, 5:44 pm #4

Hello.

Is there a review anywere on these airbrushes?

The A4702 Set is $99.95
and has....
A470 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle / .40 mm
7.5 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
Instruction manual
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case
Instruction manual & video

The A4305 Set is $79.95
and has...
A430 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle /.40 mm
3 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
10 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
28 mm Siphon cap & bottle
Instruction manual &video
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case

How is it possible that the 4305 has more stuff
but is cheaper?
This doesn't add up.

All comments, opinions, and recomendations are welcome.
Ill second the opinion of the gentleman above. You can have my Aztec, but you will have to pry my Iwata from my cold dead fingers. IMHO the Aztec is a piece of crap. It tends to clog with acrylics (which I use a lot) and I could never paint very fine lines with it. Believe me, I tried for hours and hours experimenting with different pressures, paint/thinner ratios, etc to make it work. I finally gave up and bought an Iwata HP series off of EBAY for around 100 bucks. One of the best hundered bucks Ive ever spent. I abuse my brush on a regular basis and it has not failed me yet. Do yourself a favor and stay away from the AZTEC.
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Jeff Andrews
Jeff Andrews

November 30th, 2003, 9:57 pm #5

Hello.

Is there a review anywere on these airbrushes?

The A4702 Set is $99.95
and has....
A470 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle / .40 mm
7.5 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
Instruction manual
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case
Instruction manual & video

The A4305 Set is $79.95
and has...
A430 Airbrush & 6' (1.8 mm) hose
General Purpose Nozzle /.40 mm
3 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
10 cc Gravity Feed Color Cup
28 mm Siphon cap & bottle
Instruction manual &video
Compressor adapter
Plastic storage case

How is it possible that the 4305 has more stuff
but is cheaper?
This doesn't add up.

All comments, opinions, and recomendations are welcome.
I build 1/72 scale armor
so i need something that can do fine camo
on ww2 german armor.

The type of paint i use is Acrylic.

Just thought i'd add that info to this discussion.

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Barry Davis
Barry Davis

November 30th, 2003, 10:28 pm #6

I paint 1/72 scale armor also. As I stated in my message above, I could never get very fine lines with the AZTEC. My IWATA will paint "hair-lines" any day of the week though.
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Jeff Andrews
Jeff Andrews

November 30th, 2003, 10:47 pm #7

Spend the $100 on an Iwata Eclipse or Revolution...

You won't be sorry. I have both, and you can have me Aztek, but you definitely CANNOT have my Iwata.

HTH,

Scott Gentry

Check out bear-air and dixie art.com
So what airbrush do you have?

I looked at the ones over at dixieart
and the Iwata 94 ECL3500 Eclipse SBS: $89.95
Gravity Feed side cup looks pretty good.


That Iwata SPRINT JET Air Compressor looks sweet.

So tell me about your set up.
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Jeff Andrews
Jeff Andrews

November 30th, 2003, 10:59 pm #8

I paint 1/72 scale armor also. As I stated in my message above, I could never get very fine lines with the AZTEC. My IWATA will paint "hair-lines" any day of the week though.
From what i can tell Brett Green uses an Aztec
and he does really good work.
This is what got me interested in the Aztec line of airbrushes.
Tips and Techniques
http://www.scaleworkshop.com/workshop.htm



Barry...what Iwata Airbrush do you have?
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Scott Gentry
Scott Gentry

December 1st, 2003, 3:44 am #9

So what airbrush do you have?

I looked at the ones over at dixieart
and the Iwata 94 ECL3500 Eclipse SBS: $89.95
Gravity Feed side cup looks pretty good.


That Iwata SPRINT JET Air Compressor looks sweet.

So tell me about your set up.
Aztec A470, a Badger Crescendo 175, and an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS.

I like the Aztec and the Badger both fine, and use them, but I LOVE my Iwata. The HP-CS is a large cup gravity feed double action brush. I can get lines pencil thin with enamels with no effort at all. The brush is an amazing tool. It has two shortcomings: It doesn't really spray acrylics well, (Nozzle is too fine) and the needle is very fragile. I keep an extra on hand at all times as I bent one really early on.

I use enamels almost exclusively, for the acrylics I stick with the Aztec or the Badger with a medium needle/nozzle setup. I think you can get other models in the Eclipse and Revolution lines that are aimed more at acrylics, they have larger diameter needle/nozzle setups.

HTH,

Scott Gentry
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Scott Gentry, again...
Scott Gentry, again...

December 1st, 2003, 3:50 am #10

From what i can tell Brett Green uses an Aztec
and he does really good work.
This is what got me interested in the Aztec line of airbrushes.
Tips and Techniques
http://www.scaleworkshop.com/workshop.htm



Barry...what Iwata Airbrush do you have?
(Bear air and Dixie art)(www.iwata-airbrush.com)

You will find that there is a chart which shows which Iwata brush is the best for your type of application.

There all the variables such as needle/nozzle diameter, gravity or siphon feed, cup size, etc... are all evaluated. It is an EXCELLENT tool and will help you pick the right brush for you and your needs.

In all fairness, I do think an Aztek double action can do the kind of work you want to do, but I just have to recommend you the Iwata whole-heatedly over the Aztek.

Good luck,

Scott Gentry
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