German field kitchen..same than the WW2 ??

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German field kitchen..same than the WW2 ??

stéphane chevalier
stéphane chevalier

October 22nd, 2004, 10:00 am #1

Hi
I'm wondering if there is a difference between the german WW1 and WW2 field kitchens ??
Any "gulash kanon" specialist here ?
Any pic will be a paradise !!
Best regards
Stéphane
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Phil Radley
Phil Radley

October 22nd, 2004, 7:42 pm #2

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October 23rd, 2004, 1:27 am #3

The Imperial German Army actually used 3 different types of field kitchens. the first is quite heavily photographed from the invasion period. It is distinquished from the 2nd version(introduced late 1915) by the lidded wells at the rear corners of the vehicle. The latter had only one on the left rear. Demensionally they appear identical; perhaps explained by a secondary manufacturer simplifing the design.
The 3rd version, known as the M.09 was considerably smaller. Unique to this vehicle was the convertible concept introduced. The two hot food vats were removable, and were small enough to be carried by two stout cooks to a location away from their vehicles. These vehicles seem to have been primarily used on the Eastern front, and the Balkans. It was this version, the M. 09, that was standardised in the KuK a year later, and served them throughout the war.
Ofcourse all 3 vehicles were pulled behind a two-horse limber; identical for the first two, and smaller for the 3rd version.
Oddly, it is the 2nd version that served in large numbers during WWII.
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Tom Sime
Tom Sime

October 23rd, 2004, 6:04 am #4

Hi Emil,

Very informative, thank you.

Is it therefore save to say that if someone was to use the Tamiya 1/35th Scale German field kitchen and substitute a WW1 driver then the model would be a fair representation of the WW1 (Type 1) field kitchen/

Do you know if this the “small” Type 3 version of the field kitchen? http://www.coretek.org/352nd/mvehicle.html


Tom

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October 23rd, 2004, 7:49 pm #5

I had the Tamiya version some years ago. I found the kitchen vehicle quite accurate, but the limber is the WW2 version. Your photo represents the interim model, which as I've said was quite numerous in WW2.
I have never been able to attach to this website, but I will forward a photos of all 3 versions to your personal Email if you would like.
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Tom Sime
Tom Sime

October 24th, 2004, 12:07 am #6

Hi Emil,

One cant be too rich, too powerful-or have enough research material!

Therefore I’d love to see the pictures; I’ll use them to start a research file - I’ll need one if I have to build a new limber. I’ve had a Tamiya field kitchen tucked away for years and doing it as a WW1 variant would make a nice change from the norm.

Tom
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October 24th, 2004, 3:01 am #7

I have forwarded a number of pics to your Email address. However, I recieved a notice of message failure; your hotmail address shown is not valid it would appear. Alas, I tried...
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Tom Sime
Tom Sime

October 24th, 2004, 5:27 pm #8

…with an alternative email address.

Tom
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October 25th, 2004, 9:21 pm #9

I have forwarded a number of pics to your Email address. However, I recieved a notice of message failure; your hotmail address shown is not valid it would appear. Alas, I tried...
Hi Emil,
I too am thinking of using the Tamiya F.K but could not find any details on the limber. Could you let me know where to find info on the limber, either on the net or a book title please.
TIA
Paul
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October 26th, 2004, 12:17 am #10

I will do a sketch for you, but again, my attempts to photo attach to this website have always failed. If your Email is correct you should have it in a day or so.
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