Dark yellow Kubelwagen on colour slide

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Dark yellow Kubelwagen on colour slide

Joined: December 23rd, 2004, 3:27 pm

March 28th, 2012, 11:44 am #1



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
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March 28th, 2012, 2:09 pm #2

Hi Lennard

First off, a great picture, looks like a re-enactmant it's so clear! Yes, it does show well how easy it is to get over-pedantic over RALs and the actual colour appearance on the battlefield.

The colour is pretty contrasty with deep low-angle shadows and washed-out highlights as it's been shot either v.early morning or late afternoon, so the light is both very bright and very blue.

Also, there were several different variants of 'dark yellow' that defy the supposed simplicity of RAL classification.

Finally, and if you're right and this was a local overpainting over 'panzer grey', then any number of factors may have contributed to the tone - local mixing, how many coats (looks like 1 thin one!), paint temperature etc. For inst, over-thinning can easily give the paint a lightened, chalky tone. Note the sprayer appears to have caught the edge of the shovel too.

Ron

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March 28th, 2012, 5:29 pm #3



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
Thank you very much for posting this photo, it is very crisp. Recently, i've been busy building a little collection of wartime colourslides. Its always nice to see a colour picture of a late war german vehicle in Dunkelgelb, and this one is no exception.

Keep them comming.

Stefan
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March 28th, 2012, 8:25 pm #4



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
this can`t be real,
no dented fenders,no chipped-paint, no scratches, bulletholes, no washes and no filters and way to little mud.definitely a fake

nice pic, thanks

hans
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March 28th, 2012, 9:41 pm #5



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
Hello ..
Indeed, very little rust, almost no pigment and scratches on the paint .... Vehicle cheated ...
Picture perfect, thanks for sharing ...
Andy

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Joined: November 30th, 2008, 5:09 pm

March 29th, 2012, 5:38 am #6

Hi Lennard

First off, a great picture, looks like a re-enactmant it's so clear! Yes, it does show well how easy it is to get over-pedantic over RALs and the actual colour appearance on the battlefield.

The colour is pretty contrasty with deep low-angle shadows and washed-out highlights as it's been shot either v.early morning or late afternoon, so the light is both very bright and very blue.

Also, there were several different variants of 'dark yellow' that defy the supposed simplicity of RAL classification.

Finally, and if you're right and this was a local overpainting over 'panzer grey', then any number of factors may have contributed to the tone - local mixing, how many coats (looks like 1 thin one!), paint temperature etc. For inst, over-thinning can easily give the paint a lightened, chalky tone. Note the sprayer appears to have caught the edge of the shovel too.

Ron
Hi,
I can see what you mean about the wheels.. but I doubt it's had a local respray.
This would mean the black shipping stencil would have to have been resprayed also.
Not really something you would have available locally or bother to respray anyway.
Maybe the wheels were factory paint overs? Old stock being used after the D.Grey to D.Yellow changeover?

Grant.
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Joined: December 23rd, 2004, 3:27 pm

March 29th, 2012, 11:05 am #7

Perhaps a Kubel made during the switch from dark grey to dark yellow and then repainted before final delivery. Is there some more dark grey peeping through chipping on the side of the Kubelwagen just below the folded tarpaulin?
or is it mud? Anyone with opinions on the "paleness" of the dark yellow?..it really looks "cold" in tone IMHO..but that could of course be linked to the color accuracy of the original slide, and the digitizing done later...
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March 29th, 2012, 1:48 pm #8



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
I think this is most likely factory paint. The undercoat is likely to be black heat-dried enamel.

Manus
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March 29th, 2012, 6:18 pm #9



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
These two shots are presently around the 25 mark, yet a shot of a seemingly perfectly normal 88mm flak36 is presently up to 326.

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March 29th, 2012, 7:54 pm #10



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Photo taken in Norway or Denmark. I'm surprised by how light in tone the dark yellow is, signs of dark grey on the wheels so this must be a locally done overpaint.
That Kübel mounts the late war small headlights that start to be seen in early summer 1944, complete with the wiring that exits behind them and goes through the mudguard, IIRC early-mid Kübels had the normal "big" headlights with the wiring running inside their support.

Javier de Luelmo - Diesel

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