Can a German jerry can fit the standard US fuel can holder?

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Can a German jerry can fit the standard US fuel can holder?

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November 7th, 2011, 11:23 am #1

I know that they are relatively the same size but could the standard issue German liquid container (i.e. Jerry can) fit the liquid container mounts seen on US-made vehicles? Basically, could a US halftrack have a German-made can fitted snugly in one of the holders at the side of the vehicle?

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November 7th, 2011, 12:33 pm #2

Absolutely! I regularly carry a German can on my WC62 and if you look closely you will see tons of war time photos showing them in use on U.S. vehicles.

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November 7th, 2011, 12:56 pm #3

Unless they are very clear close ups, showing the small details of the can you can't really tell if they're German or early War Department cans. The Allies had crappy fuel/water cans and copied a captured, German can 'verbatim' at first.

They are exact copies aside from the lettering on the can, hence the name they were given 'Gerry/Jerry Can'


I believe the Tamiya set comes with a sprue of these early War Department cans, which while look just jike German cans. I have seen many modelers tell someone they are "obviously German cans" but they are not, they are Allied cans.



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November 7th, 2011, 1:05 pm #4

Irregardless if they are German or British copies, they fit U.S. holders. Considering that the allies captured millions of German cans, the odds are VERY likely that they are German cans if they are on U.S. vehicles not operating close to British troops.

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November 7th, 2011, 1:11 pm #5

of course they would fit but I never even mentioned that

...and I have never read about 'millions' of captured German cans but 'regardless' the ALLIES were supplied with War Department cans, not just the British so I consider it just as, 'likely' that they are War Department cans on the US vehicles





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November 7th, 2011, 1:31 pm #6

My query is dealing with a German operated lend lease US Halftrack on the Eastern Front. My project will show it in German usage. Wondered if it'd be proper to stow a German can into the holder.

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November 8th, 2011, 2:55 am #7

of course they would fit but I never even mentioned that

...and I have never read about 'millions' of captured German cans but 'regardless' the ALLIES were supplied with War Department cans, not just the British so I consider it just as, 'likely' that they are War Department cans on the US vehicles





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Ken,
Your point is well taken, there were no doubt thousands of British made cans in use also on U.S. vehicles. I have on in my collection and they are indeed very close copies of the most common German type.
My point was that the G.I.s undoubtedly used any cans the got their hands on, captured, allied made or whatever.
interestingly, some folks collect jerrycans almost exclusively. There are many variations. This info is just for informing those modelers that have not researched into the world of jerrycans at any depth.
A lot of info here;http://www.g503.com/forums/viewforum.ph ... c7988ba01b

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November 8th, 2011, 6:58 am #8

...."The GMC 6x6 and DUKW - A Universal Truck" by Jean-Michael Boniface showing CCKWs on the Red Ball Express in France 1944 filled to the top with 5-gallon gas cans, at a fuel depot that must have a couple of acres of 5-gallon gas cans, being gravity filled from railroad tank cars spotted on an elevated siding.

The thing that struck me is that the vast majority of the cans are of the German pattern. Whether these are copies of the Jerry can or captured cans, I don't know. It's obvious there are light and dark colors (presumably yellow and green). But the American version, with just an embossed X on the side instead of a diamond with arms, are pretty scarce in this sea of Jerry cans.

There must literally be tens of thousands of gas cans in this photo. The caption says it handled 945,000 liters a day. That's just shy of 250,000 gallons, which when divided by five makes for 50,000 gas cans being filled daily.
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November 8th, 2011, 8:44 am #9

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November 8th, 2011, 11:35 am #10

Ken,
Your point is well taken, there were no doubt thousands of British made cans in use also on U.S. vehicles. I have on in my collection and they are indeed very close copies of the most common German type.
My point was that the G.I.s undoubtedly used any cans the got their hands on, captured, allied made or whatever.
interestingly, some folks collect jerrycans almost exclusively. There are many variations. This info is just for informing those modelers that have not researched into the world of jerrycans at any depth.
A lot of info here;http://www.g503.com/forums/viewforum.ph ... c7988ba01b

Mike Haines
"that the G.I.s undoubtedly used any cans the got their hands on, captured, allied made or whatever."

didn't come across in your other post at all when you said that they were likely German cans if not operating near British troops. Had you said that sentence above I would have readily agreed but if you look back at your post, perhaps you can see where you point comes across very different.

Considering that the US assembled in Great Britain before landing in France and were surrounded with War Department cans prior to disembarking, I still find it interesting that there were millions of captured German cans in one statement and only thousands of 'British' cans in the other.

Even more so when we look at the list of manufacturers of War Department cans (some of which were US owned, does that still make them British cans?):

ABP, ABL, AMC, BMB, CP&F, EWB, F&L, FKF, FM, MPB, NG, PSC, RG, ROC, RTB, RTMP, SEM, SPC, SUC, VM, W6W, W&W.

That's a lot of manufacturers which in turn equals an awful lot of cans no? I wouldn't for a second disagree with you that GI's used whatever they got there hands on but I'd be willing to bet that many photos showing 'German' cans in Allied usage, are merely assumptions and speculation based on fuzzy black and white photos of a pattern that everyone simply associates with the Germans.


...and yes, I know of G and other places, as well as the many patterns, I have a few myself. Even the German one that resembles the US can with the X embossed on it, that is precisely why I brought up the War Department can. Most modelers see that embossed pattern an automatically assume it's a German can without being able to see the lettering.

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