Bef.Tigers 9 Kp. For Grant

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Bef.Tigers 9 Kp. For Grant

imw
Joined: February 6th, 2006, 11:01 pm

March 21st, 2012, 6:33 pm #1

Grant,

Regarding 9 Kp SS.Pz.Rgt 3 Befehl Tigers, they had one delivered on the 3.10.43, this vehicle was captured on a rail transport in Rozdil'na rail station on the 2.4.44. The Befehl Tiger for the Summer of 1944 was I believe the one left behind at the Vienna Arsenal after it was badly damaged during the Konrad I operation.

I have some information on the Befehl Tiger delivered during May 1943 but I do not have my files at hand. I'll post something later. As for the Panzer III's these tanks were delivered around 31.12.42/1.1.43, because on the 2.1.43 they conducted their first drill in Fallingbostal. The crews being transferred on the 30.12.42.

Mike
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imw
Joined: February 6th, 2006, 11:01 pm

March 21st, 2012, 8:11 pm #2

Grant,

Here you go,1 Befehls Tiger sent by rail from HZA Magdeburg/Konigsborn to Paderborn on the 11.5.43, F.Nr 430064, Pz.K 844, sent to unit on the 13.5.43.

Mike
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Joined: November 30th, 2008, 5:09 pm

March 21st, 2012, 10:31 pm #3

Many thanks Mike,
Great info again, noted and stored.

What do you think? Am I right in believing that they never had more than one Befehls tiger at any one time?

Cheers,
Grant.
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imw
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March 22nd, 2012, 7:02 am #4

Grant,

Your correct, only one Bef.Tiger at any given time. The only Tiger to survive Balta and make it to Romania arrived on a transport also carrying a Bef.Pz III and a Pz.Beo.Wg III. The other AFV's on hand consisted of 2 Stugs and 2 Pak.Sfl. The last 3 operational Panzer IV's were all lost on the 31.3.44. The rest were all captured in and around Balta on rail transports, SS-T also abandoned around 1000 wheeled vehicles in Balta as well. The Tigers as stated ended up in Rozdil'na and the rail line was blown up on the orders of a German Army Officer. From Rozdil'na to Tiraspol is about 51 km by train, Rozdil'na was captured on the 4.4.44 by Russian Forces.

Mike
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imw
Joined: February 6th, 2006, 11:01 pm

March 22nd, 2012, 6:08 pm #5

Grant,

If Tiger 401 was a Befehls Tiger, then it arrived at Fallingbostal on the 7.2.43., Since we know the dates (20.5.43 and 3.10.43)of the other 2 Befehls Tiger delivered during 1943, just need to find which date the 1944 Befehls Tiger was delivered. On this particular subject for the date during May-June 1944 when a Befehls Tiger was delivered, I'm not sure.

Mike
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Joined: May 26th, 2004, 5:32 pm

March 22nd, 2012, 7:46 pm #6

Is this "401"?



Because this is not a Befehlstiger.

David
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Joined: November 30th, 2008, 5:09 pm

March 22nd, 2012, 8:44 pm #7

Grant,

If Tiger 401 was a Befehls Tiger, then it arrived at Fallingbostal on the 7.2.43., Since we know the dates (20.5.43 and 3.10.43)of the other 2 Befehls Tiger delivered during 1943, just need to find which date the 1944 Befehls Tiger was delivered. On this particular subject for the date during May-June 1944 when a Befehls Tiger was delivered, I'm not sure.

Mike
Hi Mike,
As David suggests, '401' was not a Befehls Tiger.
Photos look to suggest that there was no Befehls Tiger ever issued to them as the 4/Ko.
Their first one being the one from 20.5.43.

Cheers,
Grant.
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imw
Joined: February 6th, 2006, 11:01 pm

March 22nd, 2012, 9:03 pm #8

Grant,

Thats a new piece of info for me, cheers. So really just need to find when the 1944 Bef.Tiger arrived.

Mike
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