Advice on M3 Light Tank...

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Advice on M3 Light Tank...

Joined: July 1st, 2009, 6:49 pm

May 18th, 2017, 7:54 pm #1

Can anyone advise me on which Mirage M3 would be best to depict a 'Honey' in the Western Desert. I know that they did limited editions of the M3 which were for the Royal Irish Hussars and unfortunately I missed them when they came out and now to get one is like the quest for the Golden Fleece. Anyway, any suggestions, I would like the octagonal turret, but if that is not possible I can construct one myself (I have done it before about 50 years ago!!). Is it possible to cross kit with the Hasegawa offering? Any help and advice would be much appreciated.

All the best,

Paul
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Joined: April 5th, 2004, 3:57 am

May 18th, 2017, 11:16 pm #2

Hi Paul, I was the same I could not get a 'Honey' M3
I'm not sure what you mean with the turret though
the Honey 'Bellman' in the Mirage kit had the round turret not the octagonal one
But if you want a Octagonal turret M3 the Mirage kits #72670 or #72672 have the Octagonal turret
& correct taller commander hatch.
I guess the decals are the only difference.
(I bought kit #72670 & put the spare round Matchbox 1/76 turret on mine
& put plastic sheet sand shields on it I'll see if I have any pics when I get home.
Cheers
Elliott

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May 19th, 2017, 12:51 am #3

Hello Elliott,

It is just me, I want to make the earlier Honey with the octagonal turret, I will probably do one with the rounded turret as well, especially as I really like the Honey and it was the first model I ever scratch built all those years ago. Lots of fond memories of plasticard and Mek Pak, alas the model got 'binned' by my parents when they decided to move house while I was at university - sad.

All the best,

Paul
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May 19th, 2017, 4:01 am #4

I could have sworn I used the Matchbox turret,
But Just found pics of my build I used the kit OOTB with the Octagonal turret too?
(I guess it was always the plan but the Matchbox turret was to hard/small to fit)
Both types were used anyway even for the Caunter period.


here is my one (in the front, where you can see the white plastic shields & jerry can holder)

I glued my Grant hatches upside down to have some detail on them.

here is a couple of pic I took from a local Military show we have our club stand at.


Hope this is of some help
Cheers Elliott
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May 19th, 2017, 5:45 am #5

Can anyone advise me on which Mirage M3 would be best to depict a 'Honey' in the Western Desert. I know that they did limited editions of the M3 which were for the Royal Irish Hussars and unfortunately I missed them when they came out and now to get one is like the quest for the Golden Fleece. Anyway, any suggestions, I would like the octagonal turret, but if that is not possible I can construct one myself (I have done it before about 50 years ago!!). Is it possible to cross kit with the Hasegawa offering? Any help and advice would be much appreciated.

All the best,

Paul
Hello Paul
They are a little on the rare side - though maybe Elliott's part numbers will help. I have found a plan set for the M3 with octagonal turret and dust shields in my archive - would you like a copy.

Am I right in thinking that Revell have never re-released the Matchbox Honey kit? I'd like to do an Op Crusader set of dioramas one day to represent each of the three armoured brigade's involved and a group of them would be ideal.

All the best

Dan
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May 19th, 2017, 6:55 am #6

I could have sworn I used the Matchbox turret,
But Just found pics of my build I used the kit OOTB with the Octagonal turret too?
(I guess it was always the plan but the Matchbox turret was to hard/small to fit)
Both types were used anyway even for the Caunter period.


here is my one (in the front, where you can see the white plastic shields & jerry can holder)

I glued my Grant hatches upside down to have some detail on them.

here is a couple of pic I took from a local Military show we have our club stand at.


Hope this is of some help
Cheers Elliott
Hello Elliott,

The second photo is just what I am looking for, the Honey like that. I am sure that I can track down the kit and will be getting it to carry on with the Desert theme. The photos of the actual tank are very good reference, lots of nice little details evident thanks for posting that. Nice selection of Desert vehciles by the way, are the Grants Mirage or Hasegawa? I ask because the loader's hatch is open on the one and it is moulded shut in my models.

All the best,

Paul
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May 19th, 2017, 6:58 am #7

Hello Paul
They are a little on the rare side - though maybe Elliott's part numbers will help. I have found a plan set for the M3 with octagonal turret and dust shields in my archive - would you like a copy.

Am I right in thinking that Revell have never re-released the Matchbox Honey kit? I'd like to do an Op Crusader set of dioramas one day to represent each of the three armoured brigade's involved and a group of them would be ideal.

All the best

Dan
Hello Dan,

I would be grateful for the plans, if my memory serves me correctly I used the AFV monograph to get the dimensions for the octagonal turret as the Bellona plans show the round one, so accurate plans would be much appreciated. I am always scouring Ebay for bargains, if I spot a Matchbox Honey I will let you know.

All the best,

Paul
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May 19th, 2017, 7:03 am #8

Hello Dan,

Just found this within 30 seconds of searching, spooky...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matchbox-1-76 ... Swn-tZEeoq

Hope that is what you want.

All the best,

Paul
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May 19th, 2017, 8:59 am #9

Hello Paul
They are a little on the rare side - though maybe Elliott's part numbers will help. I have found a plan set for the M3 with octagonal turret and dust shields in my archive - would you like a copy.

Am I right in thinking that Revell have never re-released the Matchbox Honey kit? I'd like to do an Op Crusader set of dioramas one day to represent each of the three armoured brigade's involved and a group of them would be ideal.

All the best

Dan
Hi Dan,
Revell did release the Honey but I think only as a pack with 8th Army figures

I have the Revell instruction which give the caunter scheme
Plastic Soldier Company are doing a M3 soon with a choice of turret types like Revell/Matchbox did
& you would get 3 in the box. (the rotor shield looks the wrong shape in the FB pic).
https://www.facebook.com/ThePlasticSold ... =3&theater

If you want a round turret Mirage #72673 would be the best bet. If you can't get the 72671M3 Honey Op Crusader kit.

Mirage hobbies own store has both 72670 & 72673 listed
http://www.mhshop.pl/MirageHobby-AFV-72

Cheers Elliott
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May 19th, 2017, 9:11 am #10

Hello Elliott,

The second photo is just what I am looking for, the Honey like that. I am sure that I can track down the kit and will be getting it to carry on with the Desert theme. The photos of the actual tank are very good reference, lots of nice little details evident thanks for posting that. Nice selection of Desert vehciles by the way, are the Grants Mirage or Hasegawa? I ask because the loader's hatch is open on the one and it is moulded shut in my models.

All the best,

Paul
Hi Paul, the Grants are Mirage but on the second pic of the unpainted one you can just see a corner of white plastic I drilled & trim my hatch out & made a new one
same with the front hatch I drilled & cut a rectangular window & fixed the hatch open I also used some foil & made the dust cover.
thanks I have a S-Models A13 & Dan Taylor Desert conversion & PSC A9 & Dan taylor conversion set
waiting for a Dan Taylor Alamein Sherman II conversion for a Heller M4

Mirage Hobbies store has the 72670 kit ( & the 72673 kit if you wanted a Round turret too)
http://www.mhshop.pl/MirageHobby-AFV-72

Cheers Elliott
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