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Joined: January 28th, 2007, 11:34 am

January 4th, 2018, 9:28 pm #1

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.

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Joined: February 12th, 2011, 2:24 am

January 4th, 2018, 10:56 pm #2

I think this year giggles did a better job than last year with an OL that was worse than last years. He is weak in making half time adjustments although he did better in the Det game. I don't think mikey will get a coach better than him and he knows that. What coach will want to work for mikey with the kind of limited control he will get. The FO is a joke and is the smallest in the league and the scouting dept is a joke. I think the last 5 years drafting they have reverted back to the mean and their picks haven't been that good esp. the first rounders. For a team like the bungs they would have to get at least an A- every year in the dfaft. They have had difficult times getting good FA's to come here as the good FA's still regard the bungs as a joke. They will get the 2nd tier FA's and on down from there.

Drilling down further the Bengals net worth is about $1.8B which places them behind the Browns which beats only Det and Buff. I wonder what kind of cash flow mikey has to really be a contender. If the team's net worth were $1B more would that make a difference? To borrow a phrase "It's the owner stupid". Whether or not more cash flow would make a difference is open to speculation owing to mikey's personality. A psychologist said years ago circa 2002 after the Lebeau disaster that mikey lacks vision. I doubt in private industry mikey would do very well as a CEO.

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Joined: December 14th, 2001, 1:34 am

January 5th, 2018, 1:16 am #3

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
No reason Marvin should have been in position to be fired this season

He should have been fired after he bungled the 2009 season
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Joined: November 25th, 2007, 12:30 am

January 5th, 2018, 1:40 am #4

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
If it had come at the close of the 2008 season it would have felt overdue. But as we like to say, Mike Brown deserves much of the discredit. So... at the close of 2010, at the latest, for Marvin.

The reboot could have come with another coaching staff who theoretically could have won a playoff game or two by now. In reality it wouldn't have mattered. MB sabotages everything regardless. Still, it would have been more intriguing than this tired Groundhog Day crap with Marvin.
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Joined: February 12th, 2011, 2:24 am

January 5th, 2018, 1:47 am #5

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
To sum up I think 80% of the problem is mikey. He has been shown to be part of the problem and not the solution. Mikey should be fired as a gm and not necessarily giggles as a top line coach would not come here.
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Joined: March 7th, 2003, 1:04 am

January 5th, 2018, 1:55 am #6

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
Never would have hired him in the first place.As I recall,the clown had,Marvin,Tom Coughlin,and Mike Mularkey to choose from.Needless to say,the clown was just as ignorant as his father in making management decisions.Just as Bill Walsh was Paul Browns albatross,Tom Coughlin will be forever the clowns albatross. If I remember correctly,wasn’t skeeterbites pulling for Giggles and so won the day. Typical of this inbred organization of nepotists
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January 5th, 2018, 2:00 am #7

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
Suppose he would have gotten Tom Coughlin. How effective would he be working under mikey's thumb? I guess he might have stayed 2 years and thrown up his hands and left.
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Joined: March 7th, 2003, 1:04 am

January 5th, 2018, 3:49 am #8

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
Or maybe he convinces the clown to loosen up the purse strings,give Coughlin control and the GM job,and wins 3 Super Bowls.Who’s to say but given the clowns track record,Coughlin probably walks away either way
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Joined: January 28th, 2007, 11:34 am

January 5th, 2018, 4:42 pm #9

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
Marvin has so many instances of him getting fired with me. It's unbelievable. I mean, if I didn't fire him as a Bungle GM in 2007, 08, or 09...and he "ridiculously" stayed around until 2017....then he would have got the axe....probably seconds after the Pittsburgh Playoff Game last year.

At home, you're up. And you predictably blow it in seconds. That last 2 minutes pretty much summed up Marvin Lewis' career in Cincinnati.

So, game ends. I don't talk to a f*cking soul. Walk straight past media (I would have many fans in the media if I were GM--and if you believe that, I have a bridge on the Ohio River I want to sell you). March into the lockerroom a la Brad Pitt-style in Moneyball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Q0kp8CMFQ


"Where in the f*ck is Coach?"

"Probably still answering questions..."

"He should be right here because he already should know what's about to happen...but since he isn't here...I need to talk to you on Monday, Pac-Man/Burfict..."

"Can I tell him what this is about?"

"You should already know, too. If you don't then that's why we are speaking on Monday."


Marvin would have definitely fired in January, 2017. The latest he would have been fired would have been that Monday after the game, 8AM EST. Although, I would want to do it earlier than that.


This is how I would have talked to Pac-Man:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyYNxT1_Avo


Pac-Man: "Those speeches you give your other players. That's for them. Not me."

"Oh....so you think you're different? Well, Pac....the Cowboys usually put up with headcases. They got rid of you. That's what they thought of you..."


Works. But if Mike Brown would have held up Marvin's Firing....then that 17-point lead that Marvin blew against the same Steelers? I would have fired Marvin DIRECTLY after that game. 15 minutes later. Gone.

Mike Brown would not have held me up that time either or I would go directly to the press, which is something that Mike Brown hates.

There ya go. Just 2 instances of about 151,266 times I would have fired Marvin Lewis.


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Joined: February 12th, 2011, 2:24 am

January 5th, 2018, 5:26 pm #10

Soooooo...I think it's safe to say that we all would have fired Marvin Lewis this year if we were a more competent....errrrrrrr....Owner of the Cincinnati Bungles.

Here's my question: When would you have done it and why?

Or.....

....If you wouldn't fire Marvin Lewis, please explain.

I couldn't imagine any of us having to answer that 2nd question....but you never know.
I said that before but with this new agreement I don't see any change looking ahead. I saw the press conference in the paper today and I was looking for mention of the so called "demands" giggles made but I could not find a mention of any. If there were any demands met they were superficial in nature. What this means is mikey is giving up little if any control so look for continued poor results in the draft and FA for that matter. What mikey will continue to do is take chances on castoffs like pacman and hope for the best. Looks like going forward the bungs will be a middlin team and every so often make the wildcard round of the playoffs similar to Buffalo and teams like that.

As far a giggles, true the argument could be made he should have been let go a couple time in the past but who would mikey get to come here? Giggles is basically a middlin caretaker type coach but deep down mikey knows he would have a tough time getting anyone better. So here we sit with the status quo. The team would have to be sold to an owner who had more drive and vision and maybe deeper pockets.
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