Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

Play a Funeral March For Us, Paul Alexander

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September 10th, 2017, 8:51 pm #1

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
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September 10th, 2017, 9:32 pm #3

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
at least 3 were on the tackles
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September 11th, 2017, 12:24 am #4

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
Mike Brown finally replacing Katie Perry's Roar at PBS


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September 12th, 2017, 5:37 am #5

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
If Ogbuehi and Fisher continue to struggle, and there's no reason to think they won't, what I want to know is...

What exactly was wrong with their evaluation of these two prospects?

Willie Anderson leaned back in a chair on the podium of the dimly lit Bengals’ press conference room, talking tackle. Dressed in all white, Anderson is wrapping up a short visit to the city he called home for 12 years.

He likes Ogbuehi and Fisher, finds them to be willing listeners and eager learners. He laughs. He wouldn’t talk about them if he didn’t, he says.

Anderson sees what everyone else sees.

Ogbuehi is 25 years old, 6 feet, 5 inches and 310 pounds. Fisher is 24, 6-6, 300 pounds. The power. The athleticism. Alexander maintains if Ogbuehi were healthy for the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine he would have broken speed and quickness records. Fisher, meanwhile, set positional bests with a 5.01-second, 40-yard dash, a 32.5-inch vertical jump, a 7.25-second, three-cone drill and a 4.33-second, 20-yard shuttle.

Those numbers, that potential, didn’t always mesh with what is on film.

According to the football analytics site Pro Football Focus, Ogbuehi allowed 43 total pressures on 397 pass-blocking snaps last year, making him the 70th-ranked tackle with at least 200 snaps in pass-blocking efficiency last year. It was the most total pressures allowed by any tackle with less than 400 pass-block snaps.

Fisher, according to PFF, had just 137 pass block-snaps and allowed 13 total pressures.

It’s what gives Anderson some pause.

He remembers his early struggles, the embarrassment of being benched, pulled off the Riverfront Stadium turf. Not every player “gets it” right away. He knows Fisher and Ogbuehi want to be great, to live up to the expectations heaped upon them. He knows that Alexander can teach tackle.

“I remember hearing as a tackle, hopefully, a light comes in Year 2, and then 3, you have it,” Anderson said. “That’s what, in a perfect world, will happen. That happened with me.”

But he doesn’t know if the pair can do what is being asked of them in 2017.

“People are going to stay wondering until it’s done,” Anderson said.

Anthony Muñoz isn’t quite sure either.

He also thinks that by their third year, there shouldn’t be much question about Ogbuehi and Fisher and whether or not they can handle the task at hand. He acknowledges some caveats though. Each came from spread offenses in colleges. Each suffered a variety of injuries the last two years, missed practices due to those injuries and did not have the benefit of regular, padded practice time due to restrictions in the current collective-bargaining agreement.

“They pass the eye test,” Muñoz said. “But again, until it’s done ... Willie’s right.”

He tapped the conference table.

“Until you prove that you’re big, strong, athletic, long arms, then I can start evaluating and say OK, was it just slow coming along or was it a miscalculation in drafting them that high? Hopefully it’s not. Third year, in my humble opinion, plenty of time. The fact that they’ve had this time to kind of sit there with ‘Whit’ and Andre before he left. Plenty of time.”


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September 12th, 2017, 11:25 am #6

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
"Fisher, meanwhile, set positional bests with a 5.01-second, 40-yard dash, a 32.5-inch vertical jump, a 7.25-second, three-cone drill and a 4.33-second, 20-yard shuttle."

Go out for the track team then at the Olympics. What it doesn't say is this:

Fisher only benched something like 12 reps with 225 pounds.

Are you kidding me? I could do that now. Offensive Tackles have to "press" a guy out.

I'm betting Ogbuehi is the same way. Not strong in the weight room. That's where it counts as an offensive lineman. Strength in the upper body. Especially on the bench press.

That's just pathetic.


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September 12th, 2017, 7:25 pm #7

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
Strength is everything....

.....until you're Bodine and fall flat on your *** every play because you have no balance.

Strength is important, but it's not the only thing.
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September 13th, 2017, 12:25 am #8

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
I think you could have played the funeral march for the bungs season when they let Zeitler and Whit walk and degraded the OL. This accelerated the bungs move to lost decade part II. I still think if the bungs have a really bad season worse than 4-12 Lewis might throw up his hands and just leave.
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September 13th, 2017, 6:02 am #9

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
Fisher benched 225, 25 times.

Ogbuehi = 23 times

That's not bad. But come'on here guys. I benched 225, 23 times when I weighed 270 back in the early 2000s. I didn't even play a professional sport. These guys outweighed me by 40+ pounds and were only able to equal it or surpass it by a couple of reps.

So sure, you may downplay strength. But there are 2 important aspects of the gym to an offensive linemen:

1. Bench
2. Leg Press/Squats

You have to be able to get out of your stance. You have to be able to press guys out. That's why these strength determiners are so important.

Ogbuehi and Fisher were at the bottom of the lists I've seen at the combine in 2015. Most OL's were benching over 30+ Times.

Mike Brown may have taken 2 Tackles in that draft, but they were the wrong tackles.


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September 14th, 2017, 5:29 am #10

Daugherty on classical pianist and O-line coach Paul Alexander, one month prior to the regular season:
Paul Alexander isn’t averse to self-praise, but he’d never go around the NFL broadcasting his skills as a classical pianist. He is, after all, an offensive line coach. “On most teams,’’ he explains, “the last thing you do is tell people you play the piano. It just gives them ammunition to criticize you.’’

Maybe. But who’s more interesting? Someone who can diagram blocking schemes? Or someone who can play Schubert’s “Standchen’’ without missing a note?

Answer: Both.

...

It’s the biggest question of Alexander’s coaching life, which has spanned more than three decades and includes time with Joe Paterno, Bo Schembechler and, well, Dave Shula. The Bengals 2017 equation couldn’t be simpler: If Ogbuehi and Fisher are competent, the offense will be beastly. If they’re not ...

“It’s the biggest challenge I can recall,’’ is how Alexander puts it. “If they don’t play good, it’s my fault.’’

...

Alexander isn’t shy about what he has accomplished. What does he say to Ogbuehi and Fisher, to inspire confidence?

“You’re not gonna fail. I’ve never had a tackle fail. Just do what I ask you to do.’’ Twenty-three seasons of establishing something does have its upside.

“There’s a standard here. You do it this way. You don’t have to worry about anything but doing it this way.

...

He has also written a book, titled Perform: A Journey For Athletes, Musicians, Coaches and Teachers. I ask him if his linemen have a copy. He says no. “That’d be a little self-serving. They’ve heard most of the stories, anyway,’’ says Alexander.

They’ve heard. Over the next five months, we’ll find out if they’ve listened. Only a season depends on it.


http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/ ... 104532112/


Five sacks allowed in Week 1. We'll see how many were officially on the tackles.
Here's the data from 2015 for the Scouting Combine bench press, offensive linemen.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/19/ ... ench-press

The mean is 25.4 and the median is 26. Fisher was just a hair below average while Ogbuehi was definitely below average.


Fisher's scouting report was that he "lacks power".

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ ... id=2552360


Ogbuehi's scouting report was that he is "not a powerful tackle."

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ ... id=2552355


Did Alexander expect more from the strength and conditioning coaches? Is it that the two tackles lack enough natural strength to build upon? It seems as if Alexander has made this type of mistake before. Recall...

-- G Tanner Hawkinson

-- C Jonathan Luigs

-- C Eric Ghiaciuc

They happen to stand out from memory. There were surely more. Wasted draft picks, one and all. Including Ghiaciuc, who ended up starting for them. Gaaaak.
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