Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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So Marvin's cryptic post game comments might not be so cryptic after all.

First he said he'd like to come back and coach here. But when asked if he'd come back if Mikey wanted him back he said, "it's not that simple." My amateur analysis of this is that Giggles is trying to get his coaches a raise across the board and trying to make sure his son ends up with a coaching job rather than just an internship.

I still want him gone.

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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But Mo Egger said that Mike Brown is no longer cheap!

You could well be right about all that, JB. I wonder how big the disparity is between what the team pays the coaches now and what they could command anywhere else. If Paul Guenther goes to Oakland to be Jon Gruden's DC, how much more would he make? The Cincinnati Enquirer is reporting that that may happen.

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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I see Chuck Pagano in our future

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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Hobson is reporting there is interest among both parties in extending the relationship. Meanwhile the reporters at PBS are being kept in the dark without status reports......just sitting there. Sounds like we're saddled with the Giggles train for another year.

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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It boils down to how serious is mikey in going deep in the playoffs? Can Lewis get this team to the promised land? Will a few teaser wins late in the year convince the fans the team has turned the corner? On the other hand Lewis is not happy about the way mikey handled last year's off season and getting another China doll in Ross and ignoring the OL. Will Lewis want more control in the draft? These and more are questions that we need to see answered.

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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I think Marvin set a list of things he wants in order to return, he is waiting to see if his requests are accepted, if they aren't Marvin will claim he was fired and Mike Brown will say he quit ala Sam Wyche

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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I'm listening to Cleveland sports talk today. Just had a caller regarding Hue to the Bengals that made the comment that "cheap @ss Mike Brown is still holding onto his communion money. His theory being that the Browns are waiting for the Bengals situation to resolve itself simply because Mike Brown WOULD take Hue as their coach while the Browns pat his final two years. Great take. Not sure how likely but that was pretty clever lol.

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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And we've kicked that idea around over here. Hue gets a chance to redeem himself as a head coach while still collecting money from Haslem, offsetting MB's cheapness for a couple of years.

Except that Hue is not getting fired, and MB will not make a trade for a head coach because... drum roll... he's too damn cheap! Not that we really even want Hue at this point, but he's probably better than any of the realistic alternatives.

By the way:

- Hue is keeping his job.

- Jay Gruden is keeping his job.

- Vance Joseph is keeping his job.

Thus the the "outside" candidates are all out the window. Mike Zimmer is on top of the world right now, but even if he were available, Mike Brown would be too foolish to hire him.

Your realistic options for the head coach in 2018 are, with likelihood estimates...

- Marvin Lewis 95%

- Paul Guenther 2.5%

- Darrin Simmons 2.5%

Who is an upgrade? Throw out anyone internal, College Coaches are a dumpster fire when they try it, Re-treads, nope. Could be more than 7 or 8 spots after today. So, not only does "thehole" have to find a coach, he must compete against other teams for the talent. Coaches with the talent will not work for an idiot owned "family" franchise. Face it, Jerry Jones/Jason Garrett = "hole"/Marvin. Marvin is in the drivers seat, if he walks, he will get another gig. Maybe with an real organization and not a Partridge Family band that thinks it is Metallica.

Prediction:
Marvin stays and this site will never shut down.
SMFH


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After yesterday's offensive performance on that last drive I would give Bill Lazor a percentage chance also.

What I also found ironic is that even with the funeral atmosphere here in Cleveland (and it has felt like that the past 23 hours once 0-16 truly sunk in) the fans here still somehow look down on the Bengals franchise. Both hilarious and at the same time astounding.