Critical Mass

Joined: February 12th, 2011, 2:24 am

November 22nd, 2017, 5:39 am #1

Is here for the Browns - attendance seen to drop to 40000. I wonder what level it would take to get mikey to act. Recall in 2002 there was a similar critical mass under LeBeau and the problems were "institutional" in nature. Granted the bungs though not good in critical areas aren't near to the Browns debacle but a few more years of this for the bungs - who knows?

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Joined: January 9th, 2002, 2:23 pm

November 22nd, 2017, 2:27 pm #2

Living in Cleveland, I feel sorry for the true Browns fans at this point. They really truly are good football fans, but their passion for the Browns has turned into apathy. I realize that not selling-out games is not as big of a deal anymore (because of the games not getting blacked-out), but I do think that this season the Browns would not be selling out games even with blackout rules, which did not happen since the days of the oversized 85000 seat Cleveland Stadium.

Regarding the Bungs I truly do not think that Mikey would take the approach of looking at attendance/apathy alone. If he does not believe Marvin to be the problem, for instance, he will not make a change assuming that he keeps him for the right price. With that said, he could also take the approach that "we can lose with Marvin or we can lose without Marvin" and do exactly that and make Zampese the lowest paid head coach in the NFL for instance. That is more Mikey than overracting to dropping attendance.

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Joined: December 31st, 2012, 4:43 pm

November 22nd, 2017, 4:50 pm #3

Is here for the Browns - attendance seen to drop to 40000. I wonder what level it would take to get mikey to act. Recall in 2002 there was a similar critical mass under LeBeau and the problems were "institutional" in nature. Granted the bungs though not good in critical areas aren't near to the Browns debacle but a few more years of this for the bungs - who knows?

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The Browns are incredibly mismanaged thanks to some very bad hires... But I think they still have a better chance to win Super Bowl within five years than do the Bengals.

Their owner does seem to care and he'll keep trying to find the right football people. Plus their salary cap situation means they can fund some key acquisitions if the right talent evaluation is in place.

Whereas in Cincy we're stuck with bad management by the Brown family and a lot of wasted cap money (example: Dre Kirkpatrick)
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1991-2017 the putrid reign of Mikey Brown:
Record in Prime Time: 12 wins, 33 losses (0.267)
Record vs the Steelers: 14 wins, 42 losses (0.250)
Record vs AFC Playoff Teams: 32 wins, 116 losses (0.216)
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Joined: December 31st, 2012, 4:43 pm

November 22nd, 2017, 4:50 pm #4

Is here for the Browns - attendance seen to drop to 40000. I wonder what level it would take to get mikey to act. Recall in 2002 there was a similar critical mass under LeBeau and the problems were "institutional" in nature. Granted the bungs though not good in critical areas aren't near to the Browns debacle but a few more years of this for the bungs - who knows?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ttendance/
The Browns are incredibly mismanaged thanks to some very bad hires... But I think they still have a better chance to win Super Bowl within five years than do the Bengals.

Their owner does seem to care and he'll keep trying to find the right football people. Plus their salary cap situation means they can fund some key acquisitions if the right talent evaluation is in place.

Whereas in Cincy we're stuck with bad management by the Brown family and a lot of wasted cap money (example: Dre Kirkpatrick)
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1991-2017 the putrid reign of Mikey Brown:
Record in Prime Time: 12 wins, 33 losses (0.267)
Record vs the Steelers: 14 wins, 42 losses (0.250)
Record vs AFC Playoff Teams: 32 wins, 116 losses (0.216)
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Joined: December 31st, 2012, 4:43 pm

November 22nd, 2017, 4:50 pm #5

Is here for the Browns - attendance seen to drop to 40000. I wonder what level it would take to get mikey to act. Recall in 2002 there was a similar critical mass under LeBeau and the problems were "institutional" in nature. Granted the bungs though not good in critical areas aren't near to the Browns debacle but a few more years of this for the bungs - who knows?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ttendance/
The Browns are incredibly mismanaged thanks to some very bad hires... But I think they still have a better chance to win Super Bowl within five years than do the Bengals.

Their owner does seem to care and he'll keep trying to find the right football people. Plus their salary cap situation means they can fund some key acquisitions if the right talent evaluation is in place.

Whereas in Cincy we're stuck with bad management by the Brown family and a lot of wasted cap money (example: Dre Kirkpatrick)
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1991-2017 the putrid reign of Mikey Brown:
Record in Prime Time: 12 wins, 33 losses (0.267)
Record vs the Steelers: 14 wins, 42 losses (0.250)
Record vs AFC Playoff Teams: 32 wins, 116 losses (0.216)
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Joined: February 12th, 2011, 2:24 am

November 22nd, 2017, 7:58 pm #6

Is here for the Browns - attendance seen to drop to 40000. I wonder what level it would take to get mikey to act. Recall in 2002 there was a similar critical mass under LeBeau and the problems were "institutional" in nature. Granted the bungs though not good in critical areas aren't near to the Browns debacle but a few more years of this for the bungs - who knows?

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lewis is a reasonably good coach - good enough to make the playoffs but that's about it. I think he might be 20% or so of the problem and mikey 80%.
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