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June 30th, 2018, 8:34 pm #41

How did I miss this one from back in January? Worth quoting full. Brings back memories. Bad memories. MB used to say this kind of thing all the time.
Mike Brown: Bengals have as much talent as the Steelers
Bryan DeArdo - 247sports - Jan 29, 9:15 AM

Mike Brown's Bengals have lost six consecutive games to the Steelers.

Despite Pittsburgh's recent mastery over his team, Cincinnati's owner does not believe that there is a talent discrepancy between the Bengals and Steelers heading into the 2018 offseason. After going 12-4 in 2015, Brown's Bengals have endured consecutive nine loss seasons. The Steelers are coming off a 13-3 regular season that included a second consecutive season sweep over Cincinnati.

“In my heart of hearts we should have done a little better than we did (in that game),” Brown told Bengals.com about Cincinnati's Week 13 loss to the Steelers that saw the Bengals blow a 17-point lead. “But I don’t have the feeling the player level was the determining factor in the game. Things conspired against us. I believe our talent level is equivalent to Pittsburgh, equivalent to Baltimore. Cleveland is on the way up. Don’t misjudge.”

While the Steelers boasted an NFL best 10 Pro Bowl selections this season, Brown isn't terribly off in his team's talent assessment. Cincinnati does have one of the NFL's best receivers in A.J. Green along with talented defensive linemen Carlos Dunlap and Geno Atkins. The Bengals' defense also boasts linebacker Vontaze Burfict and defensive backs Dre Kirkpatrick, William Jackson, Shawn Williams and George Iloka.

Offensive talent is where Cincinnati falls short against the Steelers, as Pittsburgh clearly has a better starting running back (Le'Veon Bell), quarterback (Ben Roethlisberger), and offensive line that included three Pro Bowlers this year in Maurkice Pouncey, Alejandro Villanueva and David DeCastro. The Bengals finished 26th in the NFL in scoring, 27th in pass yards, 31st in rushing and 32nd in total offense last season.

Brown also addressed the reason to bring back Marvin Lewis for a 16th season after many speculated that Lewis and the Bengals would part ways after the 2017 season.

“I made the call for more than one reason,” Brown said. “It gives us our best chance to be successful this coming season. Marvin gives us continuity. That’s important in this league. I also made the call because I felt he deserved consideration for all the time and effort he has put in here. He’s been our head coach for 15 years. That ought to be to his credit.

“In my book (this season) was an aberration.  I think it’s correctable. I think we can rebound quicker with Marvin than with anybody else … I think he deserved to be back because he’s put a lot of his life here and that matters to me.”

https://247sports.com/nfl/cincinnati-be ... 114355816/
My outrage meter must be broken. Or maybe all this stuff just blends together after a while.
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July 2nd, 2018, 2:51 pm #42

"...Brown's Bengals have endured consecutive nine loss seasons..."

It would have been 11 losses, but the Bungles get the benefit of playing the Browns twice a season. Not everybody gets that kind of guaranteed success.

"...and defensive backs Dre Kirkpatrick, William Jackson, Shawn Williams and George Iloka..."

Who, who, who, and WHO?!?!?!?!?!?!? WTF????

"Marvin gives us continuity."

Yes, he sure does. Nice corp speak, Mikey.

"In my book (this season) was an aberration..."

Really, Mikehole?!?!?!?!?!? You must be ignoring history. Most of us don't. It's called learning lessons. You call it being cheap and lazy. Loyalty Clause my azz. You just don't wanna go through the headache of hiring somebody else.

THAT'S CALLED REAL WORK.

I'd be pissed if I were still a fan of this team.
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July 15th, 2018, 1:01 am #43

Here a scribe makes a pretty obvious recommendation, a move the team has already said it will make.

1 Move Each NFL Team Should Make Before the Regular Season Begins
Gary Davenport - Bleacher Report - JULY 12, 2018

NFL teams are constantly in motion. Moves are always being made—even in the offseason.
Players are being added and jettisoned. Offensive and defensive schemes are being tweaked. Players are jockeying up and down draft charts.

In Cleveland, that's called Tuesday morning.

Whether it's the Browns taking a buzzsaw to a tomato can or the Philadelphia Eagles making a tweak or two to a championship roster, every team is making multiple changes this offseason.

Whether pretender or contender, every franchise, from Phoenix to Boston and all points in between, has at least one more move it should make before games start to count in September. ...

Cincinnati Bengals: Give the Keys to Joe Mixon
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In a perfect world, the Bengals would make another move to shore up the offensive line. But the world, much like the team's offensive front, is far from perfect. The free-agent linemen still available are so for a reason, and swinging a trade for one is nigh-impossible without wildly overpaying.

Instead, Cincinnati should try to buy extra time for Andy Dalton by establishing a more consistent rushing attack.
As Jay Morrison wrote for the Dayton Daily News, Bengals offensive coordinator Bill Lazor believes Joe Mixon has all the tools necessary to be a complete tailback.

"The thing I wanted to challenge Joe to be is a complete back, to be able to do everything," Lazor said. "And I think he has the talent to do that. He has the smarts to do it. He wants to do it. So that's his challenge."
Cincinnati needs Mixon to be that—and it has to give him a chance to do so.

Giovani Bernard is a fine third-down back, but a lack of continuity is part of the reason the Bengals had the worst rushing offense in the AFC last season (85.4 yards per game). It was Mixon, then Bernard, then Jeremy Hill, then Bernard and then Mixon. The running game lurched all over the place.

Get Mixon a steady diet of touches, and things will improve. Watch.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/278 ... son-begins
 
No, no, no. It was totally about that horrid offensive line last season. Playing Mixon is the right move, though. He will be the new bell-cow. It's already baked in the cake.
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July 16th, 2018, 2:24 pm #44

I know one thing I have in common with Marvin Lewis--I hate woman beaters. Just saying.
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July 25th, 2018, 11:48 pm #45

The offseason is officially over today, but we reserve the right to find and enter any examples that were published before training camp commenced.
Bengals set to open two new playbooks
Geoff Hobson - Bengals.com - Tuesday, Jul 24, 2018 09:43 PM

But this is why Mike Brown doesn’t covet change. A transformation takes time and Brown knows time isn’t exactly on one’s side in the NFL’s fast-paced world. When push comes to shove it’s why he’ll almost always defer to consistency.

“It’s not completely new. There’s some changes. I wouldn’t say we’re reinventing the wheel,” Austin cautioned. “You got Cover-3, you got Cover-2, you got quarters, you got man. There’s only so many ways you can do stuff. But I think more importantly its how you teach it, the techniques you teach, what are you looking at, what are some of the things you’re doing and how you do it that’s maybe just a little bit different than maybe what we’ve done it in the past.”

Considering the only system his defenders have ever know is the scheme of Guenther and Mike Zimmer, style means as much as scheme.

“There's been a lot of continuity here for a lot of years so there are things that we're going to do a little bit different and it will take a little bit of time,” Austin said. “I don't look at it as a big negative in terms of, 'We have to get that out of them.' I just know they were taught a different way and we have to explain to them why we think the way we're doing it will help them a little bit more.”

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-se ... -playbooks
Hobson avoided using the term directly, and good for him, but Austin forced him to include it. Our new defensive coordinator is fully on board himself, it would seem.
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July 26th, 2018, 12:14 am #46

We opened this thread with a combined reference to the hot seat nonsense. Might as well end it with one, too. (Unless we find other good examples.)
Was bringing back Marvin Lewis an insane move? Bengals will soon see.
John Clay - Lexington Herald-Leader - July 24, 2018 04:26 PM

CINCINNATI -- The Cincinnati Bengals held their annual pre-camp mock turtle soup/orange sherbet luncheon on Tuesday at Paul Brown Stadium, and you’ll never guess who was in attendance.

Marvin Lewis.

Didn’t see that one coming, did you?

Not late last season, anyway, when the Bengals were headed for their second consecutive losing season and conventional wisdom held that surely owner Mike Brown would pull the plug on Lewis’ 15-year run and turn the franchise over to a fresh voice.

Alas, the Bengals ended the playoff aspirations of Detroit and Baltimore in the final two weeks and Brown surprised/disappointed his fan base by signing Lewis a two-year contract.

“It’s a very sturdy relationship,” said Brown at Tuesday’s luncheon, the only time he regularly meets with the media. “We know each other. We’re comfortable with each other. I think he can right our ship this year and go forward the way we want.”

OK, but isn’t there an old adage about the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results?

Not that Lewis has been a failure, mind you. His record is 125-112-3. He has coached the Bengals to the playoffs seven times, including a streak of five consecutive appearances from 2011 through 2015. He has brought stability and modest success to a franchise that was a popular punchline before his arrival.

That was in 2003, however. Lewis has never won a playoff game. And the last two seasons, the Bengals were 6-9-1 and 7-9. Bless the Browns, says Who Dey Nation. Without Cleveland, the Bengals would have assumed the key to the AFC North cellar.

Mike Brown looks at this differently, of course. Yes, the 2018 Bengals have the same head coach as the 2017 Bengals, but they have been repackaged with different coordinators in Bill Lazor on offense and Teryl Austin on defense. Lazor didn’t assume OC duties until the third week of last season. Austin was Detroit’s defensive boss the last four seasons.

“We’re doing a lot of things differently. I don’t know that the public understands that,” Brown said. “We have put in a whole new offensive system. We’ve put in a whole new defensive system. When you do that in pro football, that’s big. But that goes under the radar because it isn’t the head coach.”

After the Bengals somehow failed to score a touchdown the first two games last year, the 46-year-old Lazor replaced the ousted Ken Zampese. Not that the offense took off under Lazor’s leadership. If finished last in the NFL in total offense (280.5 yards per game) and 26th in points per game (18.1).

Fingers were pointed at the offensive line. So the Bengals acquired offensive tackle Cordy Glenn from Buffalo, used their first-round draft pick, No. 21 overall, to nab Ohio State center Billy Price, then hired a new line coach in Frank Pollack.

Defensively, the Bengals ranked 18th in yards allowed in 2017 before coordinator Paul Guenther joined Jon Gruden in Oakland. Meanwhile, Detroit was ninth in total defense last year under Austin. One contrasting stat: Cincinnati’s defense had 14 takeaways last season; Detroit’s had 32.

Still, the brightest light still shines on the head coach. The Sept. 8 opener at Indianapolis marks Lewis’ 16th season as the Bengals head coach. Only Bill Belichick, hired by New England in 2000, has been at one place longer. No matter how you slice it, 16 years is a long time.

“Most importantly, from Jon Kitna to Carson (Palmer) to Andy (Dalton), I’ve been blessed to have these quarterbacks that allow you to do that,” Lewis said. “They’re your lifeblood of your football team. How they play and how they carry the football team gives you as the head coach the opportunity. Because when you’re changing quarterbacks all the time, you’re probably changing head coaches, as well.”

No change in Cincinnati. Andy Dalton is the quarterback. Marvin Lewis is the head coach. For better or worse, when it comes to leadership, the Bengals opted for continuity over change; boring over bold.

Insanity?

“I know the call was controversial,” Brown said. “If it’ll prove out or not, we’ll see. I think it will.”

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/spt-col ... 41855.html
Yes, we saw it coming a mile away. Check out the hot seat thread.
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