Top Tips for your Mercedes 190

merc190uk
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October 12th, 2011, 8:15 pm #1

Today i realized we don't have a "Tips" section

so i will start with one and others can add, over time we should get a handy little list

Steve.



The rear quarter panels on the Mercedes 190 are not very well protected from items sliding around in the boot area, they do have that plastic liner but this is in contact with the rear outer panel
It doesn't take much to hit the plastic liner and create a outward dent in the cars rear panel

this has happened to me on many 190s and i have also see the same outward dent and paint blister on other members cars BUT its avoidable !


remove the inner liner and then place a strip of polystyrene behind it to absorb any impacts
then replace the liner

cheap

cheerful

and a quick easy diy job


this hasnt been trimmed properly yet was just to show what i mean.



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gibpetrolhead
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October 12th, 2011, 8:20 pm #2

I am shaking my head right now Steve!. :lol:
Current 2003 (C215) CL500 39K.
1992 190E 2.6 Sportline manual 68K Sold.
1990 190E 2.5-16 Blue Black 109k Sold.
1989 190E 2.5-16 Almandine 169K Sold.



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merc190uk
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October 12th, 2011, 8:21 pm #3

gibpetrolhead wrote:I am shaking my head right now Steve!. :lol:
lmao

ive done it before though and its saved my rear panel B)

ok maybe i should have taken a picture of it done properly :$
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gibpetrolhead
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October 12th, 2011, 8:25 pm #4

What about a cargo net of some description, I'm I ruining this thread. lmao
Current 2003 (C215) CL500 39K.
1992 190E 2.6 Sportline manual 68K Sold.
1990 190E 2.5-16 Blue Black 109k Sold.
1989 190E 2.5-16 Almandine 169K Sold.



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"Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company".
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merc190uk
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October 12th, 2011, 8:28 pm #5

or screw a timber frame around the outer edges of the boot floor to stop stuff hitting the rear wings :lol:
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October 12th, 2011, 8:30 pm #6

merc190uk wrote:or screw a timber frame around the outer edges of the boot floor to stop stuff hitting the rear wings :lol:
That's the one, phone the patent office right away. :P
Current 2003 (C215) CL500 39K.
1992 190E 2.6 Sportline manual 68K Sold.
1990 190E 2.5-16 Blue Black 109k Sold.
1989 190E 2.5-16 Almandine 169K Sold.



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October 12th, 2011, 9:08 pm #7

To rid your steering wheel of Creaks / Squeaks access your steering column from above your pedals, remove carpet and "lubricate shaft' with duck oil... Of for a more thorough approach remove the panel below the dash for full access.


And Replace thine LOWER BALL JOINTS if heavier steering issues are present.


TIGHTEN your luggage nets by removing your seatbacks with the two screws located directly underneath your chair, then pull the connecting strings tight and refasten. B)


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matth190
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October 12th, 2011, 9:36 pm #8

Any tips on how to stop the annoying noise from the speedometer? Only when its a bit cold!
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MBZ190D
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October 12th, 2011, 9:46 pm #9

Clean the tank strainer out on diesels...
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October 12th, 2011, 11:50 pm #10

MBZ190D wrote:Clean the tank strainer out on diesels...
+1


I think steves 'tramp-sulation ' tip is great. I have had dings from the inside of the boot on all my 190s.


Another tip, clip a long bungee across the boot from the bootlid spring lower holes. When your putting shopping in the back unhook and run the chord through the handles, and rehook. Keeps the bags upright and stops your 190 making an omelet and a cocktail in the back on the way home.

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October 13th, 2011, 12:01 am #11

Yes, great tip from our Steve there. Like Mr Tronix, all my 190's have had the annoying outward dings in the rear wings.

I must admit to causing one myself on my 2.3-16 when transporting al my camping gear to Le Mans :$


One tip I will give is to make sure you re-grease the driveshaft CV's. It is a job that will never have been done since the car left the factory and will prolong the life of the CV joints massively.

My first 190 had a nasty ticking noise at the rear that came and went and sounded terminal. I pulled back the CV boots and found the joints were almost totally dry!!! Once fully packed with grease all was well again.
I make it a point to always re-grease them when I buy another MB :)

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1988 190E 2.3-16 manual ASD. 168,000+.....Gone but not forgotten
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October 13th, 2011, 12:55 am #12

A few tips on those hidden rust areas.

Run your hand under the inside of the bottom of each door. If you spot or suspect any rust, pull off the rubber seals at the bottom of the doors. Treat any rust in the channel that's now exposed and apply cavity wax/Waxyol/Dinitrol in the channel before replacing the rubbers.

Slide a thin piece of plastic down the side of the rear screen to the base, between the external rubber and the C-pillar. Clean out any of the original screen sealant which after all these years will have started to degrade. Mask off the rubber and the C-pillar with masking tape. With a mastic gun, run a bead of new screen sealant behind the rubber, especially at the bottom corners. When done, clean off any excess with white spirit. This way you stand a chance of avoiding the dreaded rear screen base corrosion that affects many 190s.

Remove the front wheels and put the car on axle stands. Remove the inner wing liners. Check the condition of the bracket that secures the front lower liner nut and side bumper nut. If there's no corrosion, you're a lucky man! While the liners are off, lash a load of Waxoyl behind the leading edge of the front wings.

On a 2.6, if an auto, whilst the front wheels are off, remove the engine undertray and check the condition of the gearbox coolant pipe that runs behind the bottom of the radiator. If it's never been replaced, it will be rusty. If in doubt as to the condition - replace it.

At the same time, check for (and treat any) rust on the radiator support tube and mounting brackets - only visible/accessible with the undertray removed.
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October 13th, 2011, 6:27 am #13

As a newcomer, I think this thread's a great idea.

John
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MarkoTheMerc190D
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October 13th, 2011, 10:14 am #14

Always Zero your tripmeter when at a standstill ( Not when doing 70 )

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October 13th, 2011, 2:39 pm #15

MarkoTheMerc190D wrote:Always Zero your tripmeter when at a standstill ( Not when doing 70 )

Mark
I did it twice, and its still working... feckknows



And anyone knows something about the speedometer noise?
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October 13th, 2011, 3:24 pm #16

Do not reset tripometer whilst in motion. Failure to comply will result in strange Speedo noise!
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inlinesix
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October 13th, 2011, 8:44 pm #17

OneNineTee wrote:Do not reset tripometer whilst in motion. Failure to comply will result in strange Speedo noise!
lmao



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October 13th, 2011, 8:47 pm #18

matth190 wrote:
MarkoTheMerc190D wrote:Always Zero your tripmeter when at a standstill ( Not when doing 70 )

Mark
I did it twice, and its still working... feckknows



And anyone knows something about the speedometer noise?
lmao lmao lmao lmao

Thats because you pressed the trip meter when moving and its now clicking




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gibpetrolhead
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October 14th, 2011, 8:04 am #19

Rich27 wrote:
matth190 wrote:
MarkoTheMerc190D wrote:Always Zero your tripmeter when at a standstill ( Not when doing 70 )

Mark
I did it twice, and its still working... feckknows



And anyone knows something about the speedometer noise?
lmao lmao lmao lmao

Thats because you pressed the trip meter when moving and its now clicking
Indeed Rich, not clever. :P
Current 2003 (C215) CL500 39K.
1992 190E 2.6 Sportline manual 68K Sold.
1990 190E 2.5-16 Blue Black 109k Sold.
1989 190E 2.5-16 Almandine 169K Sold.



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November 10th, 2011, 8:40 pm #20

Guys,

looking to buy my first 190e want a 2.6, merc dealer selling 1, 140k, 3 owner, FMBSH, Black, sunroof lowered suspension air con wants £3800? what do u think. for this money im expecting top drawer stuff, agree?

thanks,

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MBZ190D
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November 10th, 2011, 8:43 pm #21

It wants to be out the box for that money mate!
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kentronix
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November 10th, 2011, 10:06 pm #22

Agreed, the 2.6 is a great car but they dont command this kind of money (in my opinion). £3800 is way more than I would pay for 140k example, even a mint one.

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twopointsix
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November 10th, 2011, 10:28 pm #23

And back on topic again.........

Another three rust-related tips

Remove the front bumper. Four 13mm nuts hold on the front, one 10mm nut holds on each side. There are two bolts, one each side, that secure the wing to the chassis directly above the side of the bumper. Over time, the metal at the edge of the hole through which the bolt passes starts to rust. It's impossible to see with the bumper in place. The rust gradually works its way outwards in all directions and the first thing you notice is the paintwork on the wing start to bubble, meaning the rust has come through from the inside. Too late to do much about it other than remove the wing, cut out the rust and weld in a patch (very tricky and time consuming) or find a replacement non-rusty original wing.

Remove the front wing Sacco panels (post-facelift cars). Inspect the lower edge of the rolled edge of the wing carefully. This is where a wing will rust first. Without removing the Sacco panel, it can fester there for years. By the time it's visible above the panel - it's again too late without welding or replacement.

Check the rear tow eye, directly below the offside rear of the back bumper. Rust starts at the welds underneath the underseal and spreads outwards unseen. Have a good poke around with a screwdriver. If your car has never had any attention to this area, I can virtually guarantee you will find some rust which needs treating.

These cars are getting on now, so vigilance is all. Happy looking!


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November 10th, 2011, 11:19 pm #24

Sorry to keep rattling on about rust, but I hate it with a passion and go to great lengths to protect my cars from the dreaded tin worm.

With apologies to a respected member of another Mercedes forum, this is what he's just discovered on an otherwise immaculate Cosworth after hearing a banging noise from the back of his car. The anti-roll bar had completely broken away from its mountings, despite having had a back end re-build at huge cost by Mercedes in 2006 and subsequently being extensively treated with Waxoyl. So this is another area you need to keep a close eye on - time to get those axle stands out again! This is not for the faint-hearted and I take no pleasure whatsoever in posting these photos. Apologies again to the owner.

http://home.btconnect.com/whitleford/wh ... 0weld2.jpg

http://home.btconnect.com/whitleford/wh ... 90weld.jpg

http://home.btconnect.com/whitleford/wh ... 0weld5.jpg

http://home.btconnect.com/whitleford/wh ... 0weld6.jpg

If I remember correctly, after being on sale for a long time, this car was sold to its current owner by a former 190 forum member. I seem to remember him posting it for sale on here after spending many thousands at the main dealer. What concerns me most is that the previous owner had paid all that money for a back end rebuild and no-one at the dealership pointed out, or dealt with, any rust on the bodywork - which must have been there to an extent at the time. That amount of rust hasn't developed solely in the last five years.
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November 11th, 2011, 8:21 am #25

OMG!
That car looks like it's been parked in the sea evernight :o

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