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Sep 26 2007, 04:50 AM #521

Dred, just because Quorum is named in a lawsuit doesn't mean they are liable for anything - especially if they have a contract with the hospital that has an indemnity clause in it.
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Sep 26 2007, 01:18 PM #522

" Dred, just because Quorum is named in a lawsuit doesn't mean they are liable for anything .."Kat

That is true of any suit. Just because you are charged doesn't mean guilt.That's why you have courts, judges, juries, trials. But I don't figure Attorney E.C. Gilbraith is a very ignorant man, considering his pedigree and his record in these type of cases. I don't imagine he would list them as a frivilous gesture if he didn't know the law in these things. Do you?
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Sep 26 2007, 04:41 PM #523

Dred Scott @ Sep 26 2007, 07:18 AM wrote:.....I don't imagine he would list them as a frivilous gesture if he didn't know the law in these things.  Do you?
Yes I do. They do it all the time. Very smart, well known attorneys do it all the time.
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Sep 26 2007, 07:14 PM #524

Kat, it's obvious you have been fed this and believe it about Quorum/contract/liability and so forth. Please understand that 1). the hospital administrator is an employee of Quorum, 2). since Quorum manages the hospital, the 50 acts of "negligence" found in the pharmacy department of the Mena Medical Center by Principle Pharmacy Group is Quorum's responsibility, 3). all the Quorum entities are being brought into the suit as party defendents.

Now, if you doubt this, I will say to you what I have said to others: if you are a gambler I could wind up with everything you possess. They are being charged with being liable because they are not exempted from liability. Guilt or innocence is determined by the judicial process.

If you need further conviction, contact Quorum's law firm in Little Rock: Huckabay, Munson, Rowlett % Moore.

I present only the facts - I do not pass judgment on these entities.
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Sep 26 2007, 09:36 PM #525

Dred Scott @ Sep 26 2007, 01:14 PM wrote:Kat, it's obvious you have been fed this and believe it about Quorum/contract/liability and so forth.  Please understand that 1). the hospital administrator is an employee of Quorum, 2). since Quorum manages the hospital, the 50 acts of "negligence" found in the pharmacy department of the Mena Medical Center by Principle Pharmacy Group is Quorum's responsibility, 3). all the Quorum entities are being brought into the suit as party defendents.

Now, if you doubt this, I will say to you what I have said to others:  if you are a gambler I could wind up with everything you possess.  They are being charged with being liable because they are not exempted from liability.  Guilt or innocence is determined by the judicial process.

If you need further conviction, contact Quorum's law firm in Little Rock: Huckabay, Munson, Rowlett % Moore.

I present only the facts - I do not pass judgment on these entities.
So tell me, what does the indemnity clause in the contract between Quorum and the hospital mean? Or are you saying that you do not believe there is such a clause in the contract?
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Sep 26 2007, 10:08 PM #526

I have no idea if it's there or not. I have not seen that document. I have seen and have copies of these court documents. They are public record. I am not into law. I am not an atty. but tort liability [a wrongful act for which a CIVIL act will lie] cannot not be shed or cast off if the court hold the entitie is responsible for such liability. Have you seen the document you refer to or is your knowledge second or third hand?

Let me add, I don't think it will go to court. There has been an attempt for mediation but Quorum refused to enter into that discussion. But I do think, knowing the results of the Sauer case ($78 million awarded by a Polk County Jury) and knowing that the Quorum lawyers and the insurance lawyers know this too, that there eventually will be a settlement out of court after they all do their posturing and wrangling to justify their firms fees to the entities involved. But I may be wrong too. That's just an observation.
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Sep 26 2007, 10:53 PM #527

I've seen it. It's there in black and white.

I will have to agree with you Dred, in my opinion the case we're speaking of will be settled out of court. But nobody knows who would or would not be found liable until it's decided in court. Again, I don't think it will get that far.
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Sep 26 2007, 11:05 PM #528

" I've seen it. It's there in black and white"

Are you talking about a past contract or the current one they are proposing. I know about the one being drafted.
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Sep 27 2007, 01:11 PM #529

I'm talking about a past contract.

Isn't there a Hospital Commission meeting tonight? And do you know if Quorum has, or is, presenting the commission with a new contract negotiation tonight?
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Sep 27 2007, 01:22 PM #530

I am in the dark other than what I see or read in the local media.
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Sep 27 2007, 02:30 PM #531

Thanks for your input on the topic.
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Oct 4 2007, 01:32 AM #532

Good grief, I go away for a few weeks and the same idiots that I thought were shut up are back to their old ways, posting nonsense on the forum.

Have any of you seen the investigators report?

Is there any proof that QHR is leaving for any reasons other than the contract renegotiations?

I don't have the proof myself, but I wouldn't want to have any part of running MRHS any time soon. Talk about a black hole - damned if you do, damned if you don't.

No one will come out on top with this one for a long time.

The doors won't close, the government won't let that happen. But it will take at least another decade or two to fully recover from the fallout of this.

So, QHR is out. The transition will set things back a lot. I'll give it 18 months before MRHS hits rock bottom. Especially if the next management is treated as poorly as the last management.

All I have to say is good luck. Just seems like the hole town is going to hell in a handbasket. I guess we should all get used to the heat.
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Oct 4 2007, 06:03 AM #533

hlthcarhazbyn @ Oct 3 2007, 07:32 PM wrote: Good grief, I go away for a few weeks and the same idiots that I thought were shut up are back to their old ways, posting nonsense on the forum.
Well theres the pot calling the kettle black!
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Oct 4 2007, 06:07 AM #534

hlthcarhazbyn @ Oct 3 2007, 07:32 PM wrote:
All I have to say is good luck. Just seems like the hole town is going to hell in a handbasket. I guess we should all get used to the heat.
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or you could take the scenic route over the mountain. :D
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Oct 4 2007, 09:26 AM #535

hlthcarhazbyn @ Oct 3 2007, 07:32 PM wrote:Good grief, I go away for a few weeks and the same idiots that I thought were shut up are back to their old ways, posting nonsense on the forum......

.....blah, blah, blah.....

......All I have to say is good luck.  Just seems like the hole town is going to hell in a handbasket.  I guess we should all get used to the heat.
At least this idiot knows how to spell.
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Oct 4 2007, 01:46 PM #536

:box: Round 10!! :box:
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Oct 4 2007, 03:46 PM #537

Hothead @ Oct 4 2007, 07:46 AM wrote::box:  Round 10!!  :box:
Ring the bell.
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Oct 4 2007, 03:57 PM #538

I've got a $20 bill on OTB!! :spank: :spank:
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Oct 19 2007, 08:01 PM #539

BTT for the new members
~~~I am the Prince of Tides~~~

"...and dare to dance the tides" -Garth Brooks
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Oct 19 2007, 09:31 PM #540

Scotto @ Oct 19 2007, 02:01 PM wrote:BTT for the new members
This will probably be one of those "Duh" moments......but what does BTT stand for?
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Oct 19 2007, 09:41 PM #541

kat @ Oct 19 2007, 03:31 PM wrote:
Scotto @ Oct 19 2007, 02:01 PM wrote:BTT for the new members
This will probably be one of those "Duh" moments......but what does BTT stand for?
kalled ...stirring the pot and bumping topic to the top :evillaugh:
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Oct 19 2007, 09:44 PM #542

kat @ Oct 19 2007, 04:31 PM wrote:
Scotto @ Oct 19 2007, 02:01 PM wrote:BTT for the new members
This will probably be one of those "Duh" moments......but what does BTT stand for?
BTT = "bump to top".

This puts a relevant topic back on the top of the thread list.
Sometimes it means stirring the pot - but not when an Admin does it... :har:
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell
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Oct 19 2007, 09:49 PM #543

Garden Rocker @ Oct 19 2007, 03:44 PM wrote:
kat @ Oct 19 2007, 04:31 PM wrote:
Scotto @ Oct 19 2007, 02:01 PM wrote:BTT for the new members
This will probably be one of those "Duh" moments......but what does BTT stand for?
BTT = "bump to top".

This puts a relevant topic back on the top of the thread list.
Sometimes it means stirring the pot - but not when an Admin does it... :har:
:har: :har: o yah it duz.....yall just think u got special permission to do it!! LOL :laughing: :laughing:
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Oct 20 2007, 12:43 AM #544

Garden Rocker @ Oct 19 2007, 04:44 PM wrote:Sometimes it means stirring the pot - but not when an Admin does it... :har:
Hear, Hear, GR!

Hey, Plowboy . . . No 'tater soup for you!!! :har: :D


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Oct 20 2007, 01:44 AM #545

Malone Laveigh @ Oct 19 2007, 06:43 PM wrote:
Garden Rocker @ Oct 19 2007, 04:44 PM wrote:Sometimes it means stirring the pot - but not when an Admin does it... :har:
Hear, Hear, GR!

Hey, Plowboy . . . No 'tater soup for you!!! :har: :D


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Oct 25 2007, 04:48 AM #546

THEOLEPOSSUM @ Jul 17 2007, 09:20 AM wrote: I'm not knocking the people that move here and fit in, just the ones that want it like it was were they came from. If it was so great why did they leave there in the first place?
:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:
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Oct 30 2007, 11:28 PM #547

doesnt anybody care to find out what the other mgmt co. may have to offer our employees? maybe we have the cadilac of mgmt co. <quarum> or not but dont we owe it to our people to at least find out? what is wrong with asking the questions? are we hiding things? the truth is going to come out and those who are afraid of it should be or not it is what it is. ask questions its the only way to find answers. thank you
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bubba 745 @ Oct 30 2007, 05:28 PM wrote: doesnt anybody care to find out what the other mgmt co. may have to offer our employees? maybe we have the cadilac of mgmt co. <quarum> or not but dont we owe it to our people to at least find out? what is wrong with asking the questions? are we hiding things? the truth is going to come out and those who are afraid of it should be or not it is what it is. ask questions its the only way to find answers. thank you
you should put that on the quorum thread.
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Nov 19 2007, 01:42 AM #549

Quorum falls right into the fleecing of mena
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Jan 16 2008, 11:42 PM #550

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Jan 23 2008, 12:33 AM #551

I listened to KENA report on the meeting at the hospital last night & in their report they said that Quorum COULD save the hospital &#036;21,254.00 &#036;2,473.00 &#036;9,530.00 &#036;315,159.00. Total of &#036;348,416.00 a year. I listened twice to make sure that I heard COULD save. If they COULD save this amount now when they are in trouble, why in the hell haven't they been doing it for the last fifteen years like they were paid to do? :banghead:

IMO the people that are screaming the loudest might be scared of what an audit might turn up. There could be several heads on the chopping block.

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Jan 23 2008, 12:44 AM #552

So.........does that mean that if quorum was not here the hospital would have taken a loss of around 700,000.00??
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Feb 28 2018, 01:13 PM #553

flower child wrote:I think that the mayor is basically a good man, but has been overwhelmed by these "disgruntled" employees and ex-employees - and I'm sure the so called"facts" sound bad. But those of us who have been on the front lines for so many years need to have an opportunity to be heard as well, in order for the mayor to come to an objective and unbiased opinion. There is no doubt in any of our minds that we've now moved into such a power play with so many players that it's turned into a
p&#036;&#036;ing match ( if symbols aren't allowed, let me know...won't do it again)

Is Vince DiFranco "warm and fuzzy" -- no. But "warm and fuzzy" doesn't do the job when you have 300 employees. He's not been out trying to schmooz and be best friends with everyone, but he's getting the job done - the hospital is making money, we're growing. In addition, he's a fair and ethical person.

He also has vision....He as implemented a "grow our own" campaign, with scholarship funds availabe through the hospital foundation to encourage young people who want to enter the health field. He is involved in community programs, participates in county fairs, and is always a strong supporter of this hospital.

I realize my post won't change anyone's mind....but I'm hoping that it will plant some tiny seeds that maybe this man needs a chance to prove that he is not a "tyrant" and that the employees don't go thru the day with shackles around our ankles. Actually we have a pretty good time, enjoy our patients, and each other. We're good at what we do, and I appreciate the comments that have been made validating that in some former posts.

Remember folks.....always more than one side to story. ;)
Yes your correct there is always more than one side of the story ...
Let me tell you another one ...
VD was seduced by the good ole opportunist TR formerly known as TM, TB, TR . This former administrator was not so ethical & was actually married at the he started his heated affair.
I can fully understand why employees were upset as they should have been.
VD went as far as to purchase a home for TMR so she could supposedly rent it from him. I'm sure there is record of this in the Waldron courthouse.

Moving right along I know for a fact he also had sexual affairs with a registar JB

Yes indeed lies always have a way of coming out.

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Feb 28 2018, 01:18 PM #554

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flower child wrote:I think that the mayor is basically a good man, but has been overwhelmed by these "disgruntled" employees and ex-employees - and I'm sure the so called"facts" sound bad. But those of us who have been on the front lines for so many years need to have an opportunity to be heard as well, in order for the mayor to come to an objective and unbiased opinion. There is no doubt in any of our minds that we've now moved into such a power play with so many players that it's turned into a
p&#036;&#036;ing match ( if symbols aren't allowed, let me know...won't do it again)

Is Vince DiFranco "warm and fuzzy" -- no. But "warm and fuzzy" doesn't do the job when you have 300 employees. He's not been out trying to schmooz and be best friends with everyone, but he's getting the job done - the hospital is making money, we're growing. In addition, he's a fair and ethical person.

He also has vision....He as implemented a "grow our own" campaign, with scholarship funds availabe through the hospital foundation to encourage young people who want to enter the health field. He is involved in community programs, participates in county fairs, and is always a strong supporter of this hospital.

I realize my post won't change anyone's mind....but I'm hoping that it will plant some tiny seeds that maybe this man needs a chance to prove that he is not a "tyrant" and that the employees don't go thru the day with shackles around our ankles. Actually we have a pretty good time, enjoy our patients, and each other. We're good at what we do, and I appreciate the comments that have been made validating that in some former posts.

Remember folks.....always more than one side to story. ;)
Yes your correct there is always more than one side of the story ...
Let me tell you another one ...
VD was seduced by the good ole opportunist TR formerly known as TM, TB, TR . This former administrator was not so ethical & was actually married at the he started his heated affair.
I can fully understand why employees were upset as they should have been.
VD went as far as to purchase a home for TMR so she could supposedly rent it from him. I'm sure there is record of this in the Waldron courthouse.

Moving right along I know for a fact he also had sexual affairs with a registar JB

Yes indeed lies always have a way of coming out.

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TM was a manager and was also involved with Dr. F with whom she cheated on her last husband with....

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