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Jimbits76
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July 21st, 2012, 8:07 pm #81

Guys I‘m not knocking F.P. They‘ve been pretty good to me for years. I picked up the Romita and Wood books from them at an amazing preorder price. Now, those kind of bargains are long gone. That said, I almost baulked at 80 quid for the DD Born Again book but once it arrived, £80 seemed like the right price for such a great book. If these break £100 a book at preorder, I‘m going to have a hard time justifying the expense to my wife! She‘s had to put up with me bleating on about $400 Rocketeer A.E‘s on ebay for months now!

Those Colan Black Widow pages are sublime, they would make a tremendous A.E.
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Greater Harlequin
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July 22nd, 2012, 4:33 am #82

Jimbits76 wrote:Guys I‘m not knocking F.P. They‘ve been pretty good to me for years. I picked up the Romita and Wood books from them at an amazing preorder price. Now, those kind of bargains are long gone. That said, I almost baulked at 80 quid for the DD Born Again book but once it arrived, £80 seemed like the right price for such a great book. If these break £100 a book at preorder, I‘m going to have a hard time justifying the expense to my wife! She‘s had to put up with me bleating on about $400 Rocketeer A.E‘s on ebay for months now!

Those Colan Black Widow pages are sublime, they would make a tremendous A.E.
So did I...but I suspect they got financially burned on the Wood book in particular and they are being cagy now. I think the size of these books probably create more problems than anything. Just finding boxes big enough to post them in must be a nightmare for their mail order people.

I am a sucker and have managed to find the funds for every one so far. I have pre-ordered all of them including the two portfolios and the Alien ae. I do worry though that we are going to see a flood of these books from other publishers as well and whilst my original art addiction is partly fed by these books (a bit like methadone for a heroin addict), my own finances will get more and more stretched if I try to collect them all at these price levels. Something will have to give, but I'll worry when I find the cost of food a problem :-)

Owning an original page is something that gives me more and more pleasure as time goes on. I am currently reorganising my games room/study to create a blank wall where I will be able to display 8 or 9 pages at any one time. I will post some pictures once the project is finished in a couple of weeks. Wall porn ! 

Having said all of that, these books really are just such a treat to hold and look at.......makes me smile every time I pick one up :-)

I doubt the other publishers will do such a nice job on these as IDW however and I'm curious to see what Alien turns out like.

By the way, I agree about Colan, at his best one of the very best, at his worst (unsympathetic inkers most often) he was still better than most. A gap I need to rectify in my art collection with a TOD page I think at some point.
  
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Lee Semmens
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July 22nd, 2012, 4:55 am #83

Greater Harlequin wrote: So did I...but I suspect they got financially burned on the Wood book in particular and they are being cagy now.  
I thought demand for the Wood book was (or almost was) greater than supply, so how would they be burned?
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Greater Harlequin
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July 22nd, 2012, 6:43 am #84

Lee Semmens wrote:
Greater Harlequin wrote: So did I...but I suspect they got financially burned on the Wood book in particular and they are being cagy now.  
I thought demand for the Wood book was (or almost was) greater than supply, so how would they be burned?
Well I would have to check back in my records but I think I was only charged about £43 (say $65) for it and I just wonder if they have realised they weren't making any money after p&p on these monsters. I might be completely wrong of course (I frequently am!) but they definitely hiked the prices up substantially starting with the Spirit pre order. Who knows.....either way £80 seems to be the price they now charge with p&p £1.
I am talking about Forbidden Planet International here to avoid confusion....Forbidden Planet UK is a different business (following a split in the business some years ago).
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July 22nd, 2012, 7:10 am #85

I pre-ordered the Spirit AE from Forbiddenplanet.com for £48 + £5 p&p. Theyve since upped the preorder price to £96.  This store is generally abysmal for in stock books (they always arrive with huge dents in them  and wrapped in thick plastic to conceal this), but since this is a preorder they wont have it in long enough to damage it (hopefully). 

Forbiddenplanet.co.uk is the place where they charge £1 p&p per book regardless of size.  They have listed the Spirit AE at £80.  This store pretty good, every book ive had arrives perfect.  I think this is because they dont carry stock and get everything to order from the suppliers.  Their only problem is the postage, if you order 5 books, £1 each p&p, if they are unable to get 4 of them, they will still charge £5 p&p for a single book!  Its best to place single book orders with them TBH. 
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themouseholecat
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July 23rd, 2012, 4:24 pm #86

In case anyone was wondering "How and Why Comic Books are Drawn at 10 by 15 Inches":

http://www.artofthecomicbook.com/histor ... uction.htm


It's all Murphy Anderson's fault apparently...
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Greater Harlequin
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July 23rd, 2012, 5:30 pm #87

themouseholecat wrote:In case anyone was wondering "How and Why Comic Books are Drawn at 10 by 15 Inches":

http://www.artofthecomicbook.com/histor ... uction.htm


It's all Murphy Anderson's fault apparently...
Thanks for that...really interesting. Even though I have a modest collection of original art I didn't really know why it had gotten smaller. Unfortunately I don't have any pre 1967 pages, the oldest being my Ditko page from The Creeper circa 1969 which is by then on the 11 by 17/10 x 15 sheets. The largest art I have is a Marshall Rogers Shadow page and a couple of Chaykin Time2 pages. which are from the eighties and must just represent the individual artists preference? A bit of a pain as they won't fit in my temporary storage ITOYA 11 by 17 folder :-(
  
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Silveragemarvelman
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July 24th, 2012, 8:27 am #88

So I wonder what the odds are that the Will Eisner AE will make the newly announced 9/12 release date?
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themouseholecat
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July 24th, 2012, 10:03 am #89

Silveragemarvelman wrote: So I wonder what the odds are that the Will Eisner AE will make the newly announced 9/12 release date?
For a minute there you had me worried the Spirit AE wasn't scheduled until December (you Americans and your wacky dates)

12th Sept is still 7 weeks away, so that should give them time to sort out any problems and still get the books on a slow boat from China.
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July 24th, 2012, 11:33 pm #90

Has IDW ever announced the contents of the Spirit AE?
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themouseholecat
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July 25th, 2012, 4:45 am #91

BonanzaGuy wrote:Has IDW ever announced the contents of the Spirit AE?
Not yet, no (other than that all the stories will be from the post-War period).

We can probably guess some of the stories that will be included:

Sand Saref 2-parter
Ten Minutes
The Story of Gerhard Shnobble
Life Below
something with P'Gell in it
something with Silk Satin in it

The Jewel of Gizeh (multi-parter) ?
The Last Trolley ?
Death of Autumn Mews ?


Basically you could pick stories at random from the 1947-49 period and hit gold pretty much every time.

 
 
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themouseholecat
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July 25th, 2012, 3:23 pm #92

Some orginal Spirit artwork:




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August 1st, 2012, 1:48 pm #93

CBR's coverage of the SDCC IDW  panel has some interesting comments about upcoming AEs by Dunbier:
http://www.comicbookresou...age=article&id=40175

Possibly a bigger MAD AE:
The 15" x 22" collection is currently set for approximately 160 pages, but if Dunbier gets his way, it will reach 176 pages, "This is what I'm most excited about," he said. The collection will focus on the Harvey Kurtzman-edited era, with stories by Wally Wood, Jack Davis and more. The new book will be released in December of this year.
What Dunbier would like to see:
Repeatedly asked by fans his personal picks for future Artist's Editions, the editor shared many classic runs he would like to see receive his special treatment. His personal picks include Archie Goodwin and Walt Simonson's "Manhunter," Neal Adams' DC Comics work that the artist had inked himself and anything by Jack Kirby. Besides getting permission from the artist, however, a common problem faced in putting these collections together is whether or not any of the original art is still available, as many artists sell their work for extra cash or simply lose it over time.
I'd be interested in all of the above!

Can't believe Hernandez turned him down!  We need to make a L&R AE happen!
Asked if any artists have declined IDW's interest in packaging their work in this format, Dunbier responded, "Jaime Hernandez turned me down."
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August 1st, 2012, 5:13 pm #94

I'd be on board for any of that stuff that he mentioned, unless it's Dingbats of Danger Street.
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August 1st, 2012, 6:34 pm #95

My shelves are getting tight, so I'm pretty much sticking to EC artists, Eisner and (hopefully) Kirby. Either that, or I'll have to have a new custom case made!

Maybe I'm a nut, but my fave visual detail of the AE books are the endpapers and preliminary pages, with individual panels and images blown up huge. Those images fascinate the hell out of me. I'd love a book of just that: select panels and tableaux blown up super-big.
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August 2nd, 2012, 4:43 am #96

leveret1 wrote: Can't believe Hernandez turned him down!  We need to make a L&R AE happen!
That would be so great...
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August 2nd, 2012, 6:37 am #97

We need to make a L&R AE happen!
We pretty much already have one, at least as far as Jaime is concerned. Tom Hignite's The Art of Jaime Hernandez prints lots of his originals in full color artist edition style, including some complete stories. The book is fairly large, and Jaime's originals aren't that big, so there's not too much reduction (about 25%). The book's currently going for $16.00 bucks on Amazon. I hope everyone's got a copy!
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August 5th, 2012, 12:28 am #98

I was chatting with Scott Dunbier online in the comicartfans chat room the week before SDCC and we were discussing future AE book ideas and I brought up Xenozoic Tales, and Scott said hmm I'll have to think about that, the sly dog! Of course the next week he announces it!

I linked him to this thread and message board, so we might get him to drop in, I just ordered the Wood book myself, according to Scott there were only 2 dozen left last weekend, so get it now if you're on the fence.
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August 5th, 2012, 12:39 am #99

LM, have you made him aware of your X-men #64 pages?
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August 5th, 2012, 1:06 am #100

AussieStu wrote:LM, have you made him aware of your X-men #64 pages?
I don't see a Heck AE high on the IDW short list, the aforementioned Colan Widow pages though, Scott and I know him, but alas, none of it is complete to make an AE. He did provide Scott with scans of a complete Wood story, but it didn't make the cut, they actually had too much material!
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