Three Days and Three Nights

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Three Days and Three Nights

rstrats
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04 Apr 2013, 17:36 #1

Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a discussion with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day.  I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that a phrase stating a specific number of days as well as a specific number of nights was ever used in the first century or before when it absolutely didnt include at least parts of each one of the specific number of days and at least parts of each one of the specific number of nights?
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08 Apr 2013, 16:13 #2

rstrats:5573 wrote:Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a discussion with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that a phrase stating a specific number of days as well as a specific number of nights was ever used in the first century or before when it absolutely didnt include at least parts of each one of the specific number of days and at least parts of each one of the specific number of nights?
I am not sure Rstrats why this would matter?

The three days and nights are a sign which is taken from Jonah and the whale. If you counted any part of a day as whole how would that work when the part of the day would still only refer to the one?

Would you explain more because the Jews day went from sun up to sun down.

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rstrats
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10 Apr 2013, 12:59 #3

admin,

re:  "I am not sure Rstrats why this would matter?

You don't think it matters if the Messiah prophesied that He would be in the tomb for 3 nights but actually was only there for  2 nights?


re:  "The three days and nights are a sign which is taken from Jonah and the whale. If you counted any part of a day as whole how would that work when the part of the day would still only refer to the one?

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I don't understand what you are asking.  


re:  "Would you explain more because the Jews day went from sun up to sun down.

Again, I don't understand.  What are you asking me to explain?
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rstrats
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24 Apr 2013, 20:58 #4

Perhaps someone new looking in will know of some writing.
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06 May 2013, 12:21 #5

rstrats:5578 wrote:admin,

re: "I am not sure Rstrats why this would matter?

You don't think it matters if the Messiah prophesied that He would be in the tomb for 3 nights but actually was only there for 2 nights?
Jonah was suffering three days and nights.

Christs suffering was three days and nights since he was arrested on the Thursday night. Christ never said he would be in a tomb three days and three nights but his suffering would last three days and three nights which it did.. He was flogged before he was taken to the cross. I can see nothing wrong with the three days and nights when his suffering started on the Thursday day time.


re: "The three days and nights are a sign which is taken from Jonah and the whale. If you counted any part of a day as whole how would that work when the part of the day would still only refer to the one?

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I don't understand what you are asking.


Well, I am not sure either as you made the originally statement.
Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a discussion with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day.
So what 6th day crucifixion?
re: "Would you explain more because the Jews day went from sun up to sun down.
Again, I don't understand. What are you asking me to explain?
The 6th day theory...

LOVE the LORD thy God with all thine heart, mind, body, soul and strength.LOVE your neighbour as you LOVE yourself.. in this way you love me.
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06 May 2013, 12:29 #6

John 7:38

King James Version (KJV)

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.




Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.


Both Christ and Jonah went to a place where no one returns.
Both suffered for three days and three nights and so both Jonah and Christ suffered personally in which could be described as the belly of hell for Jonah and the belly of Hell for Christ.

Both suffered over a period of three days and three nights..
Within their own selves.

LOVE the LORD thy God with all thine heart, mind, body, soul and strength.LOVE your neighbour as you LOVE yourself.. in this way you love me.
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rstrats
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06 May 2013, 12:54 #7

admin,

re:  " Christs suffering was three days and nights since he was arrested on the Thursday night. Christ never said he would be in a tomb three days and three nights but his suffering would last three days and three nights which it did."

Even if  His phrase "heart of the earth" doesn't mean the tomb, (and there is no proof that it doesn't) your senerio - assuming a first day resurrection - has 4 nights in it and not 3.  



re:  "Well, I am not sure either as you made the originally statement."

The statement in question is "The three days and nights are a sign which is taken from Jonah and the whale. If you counted any part of a day as whole how would that work when the part of the day would still only refer to the one?".   You are the one that made the statement - not I.  



re:  " So what 6th day crucifixion? "

The day of the week on which the majority of folks think the crucifixion took place.  




re:  " The 6th day theory..."

That the majority think the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week.
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rstrats
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30 May 2013, 11:58 #8

I probably should have addressed the OP to those who think that the crucifixion took place on the  6th day of the week.
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rstrats
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04 Oct 2013, 17:28 #9

Someone new looking in who thinks that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, and who tries to get around Matthew 12:40 by saying that it is using common Jewish idiomatic language may know of some writing.
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rstrats
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30 Mar 2015, 01:25 #10

Perhaps a slight rewording of the OP will make it a bit more clear:   "Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a discussion with 6th day of the week crucifixion folks, they frequently try to get around the verse by arguing that it is a common Jewish idiom.   I wonder if anyone (who thinks that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" means the tomb) knows of any writing that shows that a phrase stating a specific number of days and/or a specific number of nights was ever used in the first century or before when it absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights?"
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