Mark 16:9-20

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Mark 16:9-20

rstrats
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 12:27

04 Oct 2011, 11:22 #1

A poster on another board, the topic of which was questioning the authenticity of the last 12 verses in the book of Mark, wrote that it doesnt really matter because there is no doctrinal teaching in Mark 16:9-20 that cannot be proved elsewhere in agreed Scripture.


I made the mistake of sticking my nose into the discussion by pointing out that actually there is a statement in verse 9, as the KJV and similar versions have it, that is used for a doctrinal teaching that is to be found nowhere else in Scripture. As the KJV translates it, it is the only place that puts the resurrection on the first day of the week. I then suggested that whenever the discussion of seventh day observance versus first day observance comes up, first day proponents usually use the idea of a first day resurrection to justify the change, and when questioned about the day of resurrection, frequently quote Mark 16:9. The poster came back with: Quote a published author who has done that. - I have not yet been able to come up with one.  Does anyone here know of one?
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cymnot
miracle in the making
Joined: 24 Feb 2011, 22:37

05 Oct 2011, 06:20 #2

Er, hmmmm, rstrats.
First or seventh day observance aye?  Is Sunday the seventh or the first day of the week?  Does it matter?  Perhaps we shouldn't be too legalistic about it.
My old church used to do Saturday night as well as various times on a Sunday, all considered Sabbath.
This is the games forum btw.  We could do with some new games players.
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rstrats
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 12:27

05 Oct 2011, 10:38 #3

cymnot,

re: This is the games forum btw.

I know; I didnt intend to place it here.  Dont know what happened. It must be one of those senior moments you hear about.


re: Is Sunday the seventh or the first day of the week?

Depends on where you live in the world.  


re: Does it matter? Perhaps we shouldn't be too legalistic about it.

Maybe it does/maybe it doesnt;  but that is an issue for another topic.  


Do you have any information with regard to the OP?
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cymnot
miracle in the making
Joined: 24 Feb 2011, 22:37

05 Oct 2011, 11:18 #4

No, I tried googling and didn't come up with anything but there must be something somewhere. I see you have been posting same question on other discussion groups!  Andrew, who posts here, might know something and will reply when he appears.

Why don't you try Premier? It has a wide variety of posters from different theological backgrounds and someone there is bound to be able to quote an author.

http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/foru ... orCategory
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admin
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Joined: 19 Feb 2011, 18:27

21 Oct 2011, 08:31 #5

rstrats:2684 wrote:A poster on another board, the topic of which was questioning the authenticity of the last 12 verses in the book of Mark, wrote that it doesnt really matter because there is no doctrinal teaching in Mark 16:9-20 that cannot be proved elsewhere in agreed Scripture.


I made the mistake of sticking my nose into the discussion by pointing out that actually there is a statement in verse 9, as the KJV and similar versions have it, that is used for a doctrinal teaching that is to be found nowhere else in Scripture. As the KJV translates it, it is the only place that puts the resurrection on the first day of the week. I then suggested that whenever the discussion of seventh day observance versus first day observance comes up, first day proponents usually use the idea of a first day resurrection to justify the change, and when questioned about the day of resurrection, frequently quote Mark 16:9. The poster came back with: Quote a published author who has done that. - I have not yet been able to come up with one. Does anyone here know of one?

I think the main beef is that the OT is the only scriptures according to the teaching of Christ, the Prophets, Apostles and God.
The New Testament was never about replacing the the NT but the explanation of how the OT was fulfilled in Christ.

Too many people today (which is the way of the world) put too much store by the New Testament. Christ, risen from the dead gave the New Covenant (NT) it's definition. People who personally alive to the presence of God by the knowledge and teaching of the Holy Spirit.
If in life you are taught accordingly by the Spirit then after death here you will be raised to life without judgement. Because the Spiritual life given by the Spirit will not be lost. Those risen and Judged will go to the fire prepared for Satan.

God created the earth in 7 days.
Did he start on a Monday or Wednesday?

He rested on the 7th day but when did man start to rest?
Sunday for the Jews is the 1st day of the week for the believers the day would be the 1st day of resurrection and new life in the Spirit the day Christ rose from the dead. But it is also the third day which Christ rose from the dead.
The New Church was never going to be about days of the week it was about living with God all the days of the week and not just resting and giving time to God on a Sunday in an outward way.

You have believers filled with the Spirit who are the Temple of God.
What Sabbath day will they observe and why?
I really cannot see there is an argument.
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rstrats
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 12:27

21 Oct 2011, 11:25 #6

cymnot,

re: "Why don't you try Premier?"

Thanks for the link, but so far have come up empty there, also.
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rstrats
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 12:27

21 Oct 2011, 11:29 #7

admin,

Do you have any information asked for in the OP?


Also, could you please have this moved to the correct category?
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admin
Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2011, 18:27

25 Aug 2012, 08:49 #8

rstrats:2800 wrote:admin,

Do you have any information asked for in the OP?


Also, could you please have this moved to the correct category?
Hi rstrats,

Moved to Christian chatterbox. It is about a Christian matter the changing of the sabbath day to Sunday.

I can't help but feel that the Roman Catholic Church got this soooo wrong.

:?:

LOVE the LORD thy God with all thine heart, mind, body, soul and strength.LOVE your neighbour as you LOVE yourself.. in this way you love me.
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rstrats
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 12:27

25 Aug 2012, 11:21 #9

Since it has been a while, perhaps someone new looking in will know of an author.
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rstrats
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 12:27

25 Aug 2012, 11:31 #10

I just noticed that the subject of this topic is on chatterbox twice; so this one can be removed.
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