WTC2 pre-collapse explosion visual evidence

JFK
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 7:12 pm

July 16th, 2009, 3:07 pm #1

Firstly credit where credit is due...

Stundie for bringing this gif here...


femr2 for creating and hosting that clip.
http://femr2.ucoz.com
http://femr2.ucoz.com/forum/
http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13614398/femr2

Xenomorph for posting this clip
http://xenomorph.s3.amazonaws.com/WTC2_ ... al_HBO.mpg

HBO for the DVD - http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/9_11/

Channel 2 news for airing what appears to be the original copy.

Orbitdownloader.com for creating free software which makes it easily possible to save audio and video streams.

dvdvideosoft.com for creating free software which rips video into individual frames.

And finally the now defunct JASC Software, Inc. for creating Paint Shop Pro 4.15SE and Animation shop 3 ( currently owned by Corel ) which makes creating gifs easy even on computers with limited memory. :$

Origin - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... o6Er&hl=en



relevant frames from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=46GTZWS5 in order.

( Note - the frames per second rate on this is 29.97, so the following took place in less than 1/3 of one second. )















Source - http://xenomorph.s3.amazonaws.com/WTC2_ ... al_HBO.mpg

Relevant frames, Frame rate 29.97fps



















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Joined: January 16th, 2008, 3:52 pm

July 16th, 2009, 3:34 pm #2

Good work People! :)

It would be interesting to get a frame by frame of the 2nd one at the top, just before the clip ends and to find the original clip that HBO used.

We could work out what floor they occurred on.
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JFK
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 7:12 pm

July 16th, 2009, 3:54 pm #3

Stundie wrote:Good work People! :)

It would be interesting to get a frame by frame of the 2nd one at the top, just before the clip ends and to find the original clip that HBO used.

We could work out what floor they occurred on.
Here is an overlay of the two events...



Edit to add - Unfortunately Xenomorph's video is cut too short to see the second event. :-/
But it is visable in the google video as well as the channel 2 footage.
Explosion_overlay.gif
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JFK
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 7:12 pm

July 16th, 2009, 4:53 pm #4

If anyone wants them, I have uploaded the frame grabs from all three clips ( 7.75 MB ) to this location :

http://www.filehat.com/en/file/5445/WTC ... n-zip.html
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JFK
Joined: January 17th, 2008, 7:12 pm

July 17th, 2009, 12:59 am #5

Just a side note on the videographer Luigi Cazzaniga, his videos were reviewed by NIST as is evident on page 16 of http://wtc.nist.gov/WTC_Conf_Sep13-15/s ... lister.pdf



I wonder how come NIST missed the frames in the opening and second post. :roll:
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Joined: January 15th, 2008, 4:02 pm

July 17th, 2009, 1:23 am #6

Absolutely, positively, astonishing find. Wow!
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Joined: January 16th, 2008, 5:17 am

July 17th, 2009, 7:16 am #7

JFK wrote:Just a side note on the videographer Luigi Cazzaniga, his videos were reviewed by NIST as is evident on page 16 of [/quote]Which reminds me again, a whil ... d=46GTZWS5
He used to have it up on his own website, http://www.luigicazzaniga.com/ though his domain has been cancelled or expired now. Other portions of this clip I assembled come from PBS's "New York: Center of the World"documentary and CNN coverage from mid-afternoon, 9/11/01. The "orange flash" events are nowehere to be found except HBO.
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JFK
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July 17th, 2009, 12:55 pm #8

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Joined: February 4th, 2008, 1:23 am

July 17th, 2009, 1:18 pm #9

JFK wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how this is an explosion. This clearly looks like this molten metal is dripping from on high and hit the side of the WTC and splashed on it's way down.


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Joined: January 22nd, 2008, 3:28 pm

July 17th, 2009, 1:33 pm #10

BoneZ wrote:
JFK wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how this is an explosion. This clearly looks like this molten metal is dripping from on high and hit the side of the WTC and splashed on it's way down.

I was thinking that as well....but, what kind of ledge could it have bounced into?

my other thought was something like a firecracker, firework, or some kind of material that ignited itself on the way down...maybe knocked off from a bigger piece of something made of the same material
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