What's Their Payoff

Kibitzing, rabble rousing, all-round generic conversation. Any and everything. You get it.

What's Their Payoff

mid life crises
Advanced Member
mid life crises
Advanced Member
Joined: Jan 4 2007, 09:57 PM

Aug 12 2007, 06:41 PM #1

I was thinking on this beautiful summer Sunday about something.

What is the final result for these elites? Whoever or whatever is at the top of the pyrimid obviously has an agenda and certain people are privy to it and are orchestrating events to make this agenda happen. And it probably has been tried a few times throughout the history of civilization, right?

So, WHY are they doing it? What do you think the final prize is for them? Your own galaxy to rule forever? Eternal life here or somewhere else?

I mean, it kind of boggles the mind to think that mankind for all these millenia have not been truly alllowed to be - we've always been forced in one way or another for this agenda.

Sometimes I jokingly think to myself that we are all nothing more than some alien kid's science fair project that repeatedly goes wrong and he may just pull the plug.

What are the thoughts of the genuine truthers on this board about Why this is all happening.
Why?? Why?? Why!!!! Nancy Kerrigan

"I take pride in my home, I take pride in my kids, I take pride in being Mrs. Jack Butler. It means something to raise decent human beings!" from Mr. Mom

"Be careful out there amongst those Englischer." from Witness

"Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." from The Princess Bride

"Kettle's boiling!" from The Turning Point

"Fool me once, shame on- shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again." from someone smokin crack
Quote
Like
Share

jfk
Advanced Member
jfk
Advanced Member
Joined: May 28 2007, 06:09 PM

Aug 12 2007, 06:46 PM #2

My humble opinion,

Google "Georgia Guidestones".

Written in stone and erected during the Reagan era. ;)

Edit to add : Then find out the current GLOBAL population. <_<
Quote
Like
Share

Andoo Inc.
Advanced Member
Andoo Inc.
Advanced Member
Joined: Oct 20 2006, 01:24 PM

Aug 12 2007, 06:49 PM #3

well freeman had a video episode on the guidestones.
www.freemanarchives.com
It's one of the videos. I think the one with the pyramid. He's such a badass
"The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
will not be televised, will not be televised.
he revolution will be no re-run brothers;
The revolution will be live."
Quote
Like
Share

Q-pid Stunt
Advanced Member
Q-pid Stunt
Advanced Member
Joined: Feb 2 2007, 06:10 AM

Aug 12 2007, 07:08 PM #4

jfk @ Aug 13 2007, 04:46 AM wrote: My humble opinion,

Google "Georgia Guidestones".

Written in stone and erected during the Reagan era. ;)

Edit to add : Then find out the current GLOBAL population. <_<
Yes, under current food distribution infrastructure the world is grossly over-populated,

BUT

Mass extermination of selected races, socio-economic groups, etc. is not going to solve the problem whilstever those few greedy ones at the top want to maintain their existing control games.
Quote
Like
Share

jfk
Advanced Member
jfk
Advanced Member
Joined: May 28 2007, 06:09 PM

Aug 12 2007, 07:11 PM #5

Q&#045;pid Stunt @ Aug 12 2007, 03:08 PM wrote:
jfk @ Aug 13 2007, 04:46 AM wrote: My humble opinion,

Google "Georgia Guidestones".&nbsp;

Written in stone and erected during the Reagan era.&nbsp; ;)

Edit to add : Then find out the current GLOBAL population.&nbsp; <_<
Yes, under current food distribution infrastructure the world is grossly over-populated,

BUT

Mass extermination of selected races, socio-economic groups, etc. is not going to solve the problem whilstever those few greedy ones at the top want to maintain their existing control games.
You are not thinking long term.

Now google " The Lucifer project " and especially follow the links from those pages to NASA. ;)

Think of the implications if this is true, which it appears to be. <_<
Quote
Like
Share

mid life crises
Advanced Member
mid life crises
Advanced Member
Joined: Jan 4 2007, 09:57 PM

Aug 12 2007, 09:12 PM #6

Yeah but what's the END reward??
Why?? Why?? Why!!!! Nancy Kerrigan

"I take pride in my home, I take pride in my kids, I take pride in being Mrs. Jack Butler. It means something to raise decent human beings!" from Mr. Mom

"Be careful out there amongst those Englischer." from Witness

"Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." from The Princess Bride

"Kettle's boiling!" from The Turning Point

"Fool me once, shame on- shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again." from someone smokin crack
Quote
Like
Share

jfk
Advanced Member
jfk
Advanced Member
Joined: May 28 2007, 06:09 PM

Aug 12 2007, 09:52 PM #7

mid life crises @ Aug 12 2007, 05:12 PM wrote:Yeah but what's the END reward??
In regards to earth, a very polluted "garden of eden". <_<

Check Saturn's moons. ;)
Quote
Like
Share

truthisgood
Advanced Member
truthisgood
Advanced Member
Joined: Feb 9 2007, 07:18 PM

Aug 12 2007, 10:16 PM #8

I often have the same thoughts, midlife. Glad you brought it up. "They" are going to die just like everyone else so what is the point of gaining so much control. And a person can only spend so much money. Why can't they simply live and let live. Sure, we need leaders, but why can't those that have leadership ability back away after they've shared their talents for helping/organizing things. It boggles the mind why they do what they do.

I smiled at the part about us being like a science project. Sometimes I think about ants and wonder if we are looking at them similar to what some other life form may be looking at us. Weird, huh?
Quote
Like
Share

mid life crises
Advanced Member
mid life crises
Advanced Member
Joined: Jan 4 2007, 09:57 PM

Aug 12 2007, 10:18 PM #9

jfk @ Aug 12 2007, 09:52 PM wrote:
mid life crises @ Aug 12 2007, 05:12 PM wrote:Yeah but what's the END reward??
In regards to earth, a very polluted "garden of eden". <_<

Check Saturn's moons. ;)
Yes, I get what you are alluding to. But, I wonder why did it have to come to this? Couldn't we have planned better as far as population control and resources go? If "someone" or "something" knew it was going to come to this, wouldn't it have been a hell of a lot easier to plan on this planet rather than pillage this one and destroy it and try to make another one habitable?
Again, it feels like an alien kids science fair experiment.
Why?? Why?? Why!!!! Nancy Kerrigan

"I take pride in my home, I take pride in my kids, I take pride in being Mrs. Jack Butler. It means something to raise decent human beings!" from Mr. Mom

"Be careful out there amongst those Englischer." from Witness

"Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." from The Princess Bride

"Kettle's boiling!" from The Turning Point

"Fool me once, shame on- shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again." from someone smokin crack
Quote
Like
Share

JQPublic
Advanced Member
JQPublic
Advanced Member
Joined: Oct 26 2006, 12:41 AM

Aug 12 2007, 10:44 PM #10

GA GUIDESTONES TEXT

On one of the highest hilltops in Elbert County, Georgia stands a huge granite monument. Engraved in eight different languages on the four giant stones that support the common capstone are 10 Guides, or commandments. That monument is alternately referred to as The Georgia Guidestones, or the American Stonehenge. Though relatively unknown to most people, it is an important link to the Occult Hierarchy that dominates the world in which we live.
The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. Several things are apparent. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

In the public library in Elberton, I found a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I discovered that the monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.

The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. We ignore that message at our peril.

Copies are available for researchers from Radio Liberty.





The Age of Reason was a book written by Thomas Paine. Its intent was to destroy the Judeo-Christian beliefs upon which our Republic was founded.




The hole that you see in the stone was drilled in the Center Stone so that the North Star could be visualized through it at any moment. This was one of several requirements stipulated by R.C.Christian for the building of the American Stonehenge and reflects his obsession with the alignment of the stars, the sun, and the moon. Occultists often worship the alignment and movement of heavenly bodies as part of their religious ceremonies
Quote
Like
Share

JQPublic
Advanced Member
JQPublic
Advanced Member
Joined: Oct 26 2006, 12:41 AM

Aug 12 2007, 10:48 PM #11

this is someone who had a crap load of cash and wanted to leave
a message behind.. maybe he knew he was going to die. and
felt his work wasnt... who knows.. but NWO it isn't next...
Quote
Like
Share

mid life crises
Advanced Member
mid life crises
Advanced Member
Joined: Jan 4 2007, 09:57 PM

Aug 12 2007, 11:47 PM #12

I have trouble with the fact that there is a spelling error in the guidestones.....call me picky but....it bothers me.
Why?? Why?? Why!!!! Nancy Kerrigan

"I take pride in my home, I take pride in my kids, I take pride in being Mrs. Jack Butler. It means something to raise decent human beings!" from Mr. Mom

"Be careful out there amongst those Englischer." from Witness

"Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." from The Princess Bride

"Kettle's boiling!" from The Turning Point

"Fool me once, shame on- shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again." from someone smokin crack
Quote
Like
Share

jfk
Advanced Member
jfk
Advanced Member
Joined: May 28 2007, 06:09 PM

Aug 13 2007, 10:15 AM #13

mid life crises @ Aug 12 2007, 06:18 PM wrote:Yes, I get what you are alluding to. But, I wonder why did it have to come to this? Couldn't we have planned better as far as population control and resources go?
Indeed they did try.

What does the bible teach in regards to fornication, marriage, etc... ?

China has gone several steps further by limiting each couple to one child, with death as a penalty for non compliance. *Somewhere* I have a great set of pictures of one of these mass executions.... Which I WON'T post.

Think about all the controversy surrounding sex-ed when it was first proposed.
( are you old enough to remember ? )

Remember when the mentioning of anything sexual on tv was taboo ?

Look at all the contraceptive and condom ads on tv today.

Looking back upon my life, I am guilty as well..... When people ask me if I have any kids, I tell them the truth. "None that I am aware of."

Think about that for a minute.

Then think about all the "modern" viruses, plagues, and diseases.
For a case in point, google a fellow named "Mark Purdy" and his research on mad cow disease which never went mainstream. then ask yourself seriously why it didn't.
Then ask yourself if less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the beef in the US is tested for madcow disease, how can they possibly be so certain that it does not exist in the US ?

Getting on to resources, if there is a buck to be made off it, it WILL be exploited.

Kinda reminds me of the lyrics of a song which goes something like "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

After a while you realize that they refers to us.
I have trouble with the fact that there is a spelling error in the guidestones.....call me picky but....it bothers me.
:huh: Could you please point out what I have overlooked ?
Quote
Like
Share

mid life crises
Advanced Member
mid life crises
Advanced Member
Joined: Jan 4 2007, 09:57 PM

Aug 13 2007, 11:41 AM #14

jfk @ Aug 13 2007, 10:15 AM wrote:
mid life crises @ Aug 12 2007, 06:18 PM wrote:Yes, I get what you are alluding to. But, I wonder why did it have to come to this? Couldn't we have planned better as far as population control and resources go?
Indeed they did try.

What does the bible teach in regards to fornication, marriage, etc... ?

China has gone several steps further by limiting each couple to one child, with death as a penalty for non compliance. *Somewhere* I have a great set of pictures of one of these mass executions.... Which I WON'T post.

Think about all the controversy surrounding sex-ed when it was first proposed.
( are you old enough to remember ? )

Remember when the mentioning of anything sexual on tv was taboo ?

Look at all the contraceptive and condom ads on tv today.

Looking back upon my life, I am guilty as well..... When people ask me if I have any kids, I tell them the truth. "None that I am aware of."

Think about that for a minute.

Then think about all the "modern" viruses, plagues, and diseases.
For a case in point, google a fellow named "Mark Purdy" and his research on mad cow disease which never went mainstream. then ask yourself seriously why it didn't.
Then ask yourself if less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the beef in the US is tested for madcow disease, how can they possibly be so certain that it does not exist in the US ?

Getting on to resources, if there is a buck to be made off it, it WILL be exploited.

Kinda reminds me of the lyrics of a song which goes something like "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

After a while you realize that they refers to us.
I have trouble with the fact that there is a spelling error in the guidestones.....call me picky but....it bothers me.
:huh: Could you please point out what I have overlooked ?
On the explanatory stone, under the name of the author, R.C. Christian, pseudonym is spelled incorrectly. It reads Author R.C. Christian, A Pseudonyn..

I guess it could be an honest mistake on the part of the engraver, but I'd expect the author of this grand plan to be able to spell fancy words.

Also, i'll look into Mark Purdy and mad cow. I work in healthcare and we had some scare with the disease - Creutzfeld Jacob it is called (now my spelling is in question here!) in relation to blood products in the 90's. Then it did all settle out some. Thanks.
Why?? Why?? Why!!!! Nancy Kerrigan

"I take pride in my home, I take pride in my kids, I take pride in being Mrs. Jack Butler. It means something to raise decent human beings!" from Mr. Mom

"Be careful out there amongst those Englischer." from Witness

"Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." from The Princess Bride

"Kettle's boiling!" from The Turning Point

"Fool me once, shame on- shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again." from someone smokin crack
Quote
Like
Share

jfk
Advanced Member
jfk
Advanced Member
Joined: May 28 2007, 06:09 PM

Aug 13 2007, 12:37 PM #15

Indeed that is odd.... According to answers.com it is a common misspelling, yet when I search on it I get only 295 results.

:lol: I just took the second part of the root of that word, nym which means name and did a search on the way it is misspelled, nyn.

One interesting and informative result is here. http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/freebie/nyn.htm
Quote
Like
Share

jfk
Advanced Member
jfk
Advanced Member
Joined: May 28 2007, 06:09 PM

Aug 13 2007, 12:47 PM #16

:o Mark Purdy is now dead. :( :angry:

His website - http://www.markpurdey.com/
Quote
Like
Share

SilentHyena
Advanced Member
SilentHyena
Advanced Member
Joined: Nov 7 2006, 06:36 PM

Aug 13 2007, 03:02 PM #17

JQPublic @ Aug 12 2007, 10:44 PM wrote: GA GUIDESTONES TEXT

On one of the highest hilltops in Elbert County, Georgia stands a huge granite monument. Engraved in eight different languages on the four giant stones that support the common capstone are 10 Guides, or commandments. That monument is alternately referred to as The Georgia Guidestones, or the American Stonehenge. Though relatively unknown to most people, it is an important link to the Occult Hierarchy that dominates the world in which we live.
The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. Several things are apparent. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

In the public library in Elberton, I found a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I discovered that the monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.

The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. We ignore that message at our peril.

Copies are available for researchers from Radio Liberty.





The Age of Reason was a book written by Thomas Paine. Its intent was to destroy the Judeo-Christian beliefs upon which our Republic was founded.




The hole that you see in the stone was drilled in the Center Stone so that the North Star could be visualized through it at any moment. This was one of several requirements stipulated by R.C.Christian for the building of the American Stonehenge and reflects his obsession with the alignment of the stars, the sun, and the moon. Occultists often worship the alignment and movement of heavenly bodies as part of their religious ceremonies
I would like to make one change to the 4 points you make. When you say 'promoting environmentalism' it really means promoting a single religion called Gaia. Anyone who doesn't subscribe to this religion will be deemed a heretic and antisocial.
Quote
Like
Share

look-up
Advanced Member
look-up
Advanced Member
Joined: Oct 25 2006, 02:29 PM

Aug 13 2007, 03:10 PM #18

We don't need population reduction.

It's too much of a slippery slope to begin to slide down.

We need to destroy the elite. Then, and only then, can we assess what the true outlook of humanity on Earth truly is.

We don't even know if our information about population and its affects on the environment are accurate because much of that information comes from the NWO crowd.

We need to destroy them first. Then we can asses the damage they've done.

But I firmly believe that there is plenty of resources on the Earth for lots more people.

And if not, there's always space. :D
-------------------------------------------------------
Come pull the sheet over my eyes
so I can sleep tonight
despite what I have seen today
I've found you guilty of a crime
of sleeping at a time
when you should have been wide awake

WIDE AWAKE!!!!!!!
by Audioslave
Quote
Like
Share


Confirmation of reply: