Jref's New Strategy Against Loose Change

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Jref's New Strategy Against Loose Change

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Nov 12 2007, 09:55 PM #1





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Nov 12 2007, 10:07 PM #2

BenBurch @ JREF wrote: You know, I bet if we got on the phone this week, by Friday we could have at least a half-dozen media outlets suing Dylan over his piracy of their copyright works. He goes WAY beyond the legal definition of fair use.
SDC @ JREF wrote: I can only assume that DA not only never consulted a specialist in copyright and intellectual property, he never considered it seriously.
:lol:

Think they'll admit they're wrong?? I guess BenBurch likes making an ass of himself.
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Nov 12 2007, 10:12 PM #3

well, the assumption is that all the videos are being used without permission and not as fair use. Good luck with that.

yeah that's good. go after copyright infringement, not the issues.
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Nov 12 2007, 10:18 PM #4

buddy @ Nov 12 2007, 05:12 PM wrote: yeah that's good. go after copyright infringement, not the issues.
They'd be better off sticking to the issues. Not that they have much there either.
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Nov 12 2007, 10:31 PM #5

IVXX @ Nov 12 2007, 05:18 PM wrote:
buddy @ Nov 12 2007, 05:12 PM wrote: yeah that's good. go after copyright infringement, not the issues.
They'd be better off sticking to the issues. Not that they have much there either.
Does anyone else see the traitorous undertone to these efforts? :angry:
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Nov 12 2007, 10:33 PM #6

Absolutely.
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- Marshall McLuhan (1911-1980)
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Nov 12 2007, 10:44 PM #7

They wouldn't have a case considering the footage presented is historical record of an event. Its not like Dylan could have gotten that footage anywhere else.
Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair

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Nov 12 2007, 11:02 PM #8

It's their plan B.

You really think they'd have a chance in just taking the film head on and addressing the facts? HA! The day that happens is the day I'll grow a third eye.
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Nov 12 2007, 11:05 PM #9

Why don't they debate the content, instead of working to try to stop people from accessing the information..? Interesting tact..
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Nov 12 2007, 11:22 PM #10

Headhunter @ Nov 12 2007, 06:05 PM wrote: Why don't they debate the content.
Cause they can't.
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Nov 12 2007, 11:23 PM #11

Does the "fair use" doctrine include for-profit documentaries?

Perhaps LTW should become a 501c3.
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Nov 12 2007, 11:31 PM #12

that is dispicable.

These people don't have an ounce of understanding of freedom of speech. Freedom of belief and freedom of expression. If it were their way they would get rid of freedom of speech, outlaw speech. Then these same people would control us.
You know I may not agree with everything people say. But I'm smart enough to ask questions to be sure.

I am not a dumb person, I can honestly say this about myself. I know what my questions are and my concerns. I know my rights and how the government is taking them away.
These people don't understand the effects 9/11 and bush had on our freedoms.

I just really want these people to get a better hobby. I don't hate on you believers so don't hate on me. Pompous assholes
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Nov 12 2007, 11:35 PM #13

Well what else can you expect, when you let the dogs crap all inside your bed, speaking about the forums here?
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Nov 12 2007, 11:47 PM #14

stopsnitchin @ Nov 12 2007, 09:55 PM wrote: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98600

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too bad the footage was bought and not all taken in "fair use" so they can do what they want the reason the film cost so much to make in part is because the cost of using footage.
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Nov 12 2007, 11:49 PM #15

Quezinox @ Nov 12 2007, 07:47 PM wrote:
stopsnitchin @ Nov 12 2007, 09:55 PM wrote: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98600

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too bad the footage was bought and not all taken in "fair use" so they can do what they want the reason the film cost so much to make in part is because the cost of using footage.
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Nov 12 2007, 11:52 PM #16

thehighwaymanq @ Nov 12 2007, 11:49 PM wrote:
Quezinox @ Nov 12 2007, 07:47 PM wrote:
stopsnitchin @ Nov 12 2007, 09:55 PM wrote: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98600

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too bad the footage was bought and not all taken in "fair use" so they can do what they want the reason the film cost so much to make in part is because the cost of using footage.
Yo Mikey, do you know if LTW Radio is new tonight or a repeated ep?
not sure as i have not has contact with either dylan or jason today, home all alone haha

oh and at least Gravy got it right over there
Why are people assuming that LTW didn't purchase the rights for the footage they are using? After the Naudet debacle (not a lawsuit, btw), they assured their fans that the Final Cut would not have those copyright issues, that it would be "100% legal." Since they were trying get the movie released in theaters with major investors like Mark Cuban on board, I don't expect they would have treated this issue cavalierly.
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Nov 12 2007, 11:58 PM #17

Quezinox @ Nov 12 2007, 06:52 PM wrote: oh and at least Gravy got it right over there
Why are people assuming that LTW didn't purchase the rights for the footage they are using? After the Naudet debacle (not a lawsuit, btw), they assured their fans that the Final Cut would not have those copyright issues, that it would be "100% legal." Since they were trying get the movie released in theaters with major investors like Mark Cuban on board, I don't expect they would have treated this issue cavalierly.
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WOW!! I'm impressed.
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Nov 13 2007, 12:02 AM #18

So gravy isn't a total fool then.

Hey remember Mel Gibson in the film "Conspiracy Theory"..?

"Oh no, not the gravy, not the gravy!"
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Nov 13 2007, 12:03 AM #19

Dang, Gravy... we knew you had it in you.
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Nov 13 2007, 12:28 AM #20

IVXX @ Nov 12 2007, 06:22 PM wrote:
Headhunter @ Nov 12 2007, 06:05 PM wrote: Why don't they debate the content.
Cause they can't.
What was new in the film that hasn't already been addressed?
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