you know my friend who was travelling to SA? SHE SEEMS TO BE PREGNANT!

you know my friend who was travelling to SA? SHE SEEMS TO BE PREGNANT!

Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 7:45 am

March 26th, 2012, 6:37 am #1

after beta hell of nearly a week, her numbers are now doubling nicely.
For the record: 11dp5dt her hCG was 4.
13dp5dt her hCG was 6 (SIX!!! WTF). This is when I really thought this cycle was a bust and gently told her so...
15dp5dt her hCG was 48!
two days later, today it is 148....
I've never heard of such a late turnaround. (3 blasts put back in an FET)
Needless to say I am totally thrilled.
Never mind her!
I know she's not out of the woods, but really, she's in with a shot now, right?
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Joined: February 6th, 2007, 1:08 am

March 26th, 2012, 7:38 am #2

OMG, hope all carries on well. I must say I was one of those with a late starter, negative beta on day 10 past transfer with Dayna's cycle and it was triplets.




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Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 7:45 am

March 26th, 2012, 7:41 am #3

she was only under a GP's care here who really didn't have a clue and I was clearly trying to be too much of a know it all...
But little did I know.
Here's fingers crossed....
thanks ..
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Joined: October 9th, 2008, 2:53 am

March 26th, 2012, 8:08 am #4

after beta hell of nearly a week, her numbers are now doubling nicely.
For the record: 11dp5dt her hCG was 4.
13dp5dt her hCG was 6 (SIX!!! WTF). This is when I really thought this cycle was a bust and gently told her so...
15dp5dt her hCG was 48!
two days later, today it is 148....
I've never heard of such a late turnaround. (3 blasts put back in an FET)
Needless to say I am totally thrilled.
Never mind her!
I know she's not out of the woods, but really, she's in with a shot now, right?
Hi Laura,
Your poor friend must have been beside herself.
All sounds very good now though. I often see on the yellow ladies asking about betas. Its so arbitary. Some donors lead to high early betas and some do not. As well there are early and late implantations, then FETS vs fresh... its a minefield.
I think its better to keep on with the drugs for a few days after the 14 days even if you get a BFN. I know someone close to me got a late beta and he is nearly 8 years old now. You just never know
Its great news about your friend. She must be jumping for joy and rightly so.
best, THK
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Joined: October 8th, 2008, 7:27 pm

March 26th, 2012, 9:47 am #5

after beta hell of nearly a week, her numbers are now doubling nicely.
For the record: 11dp5dt her hCG was 4.
13dp5dt her hCG was 6 (SIX!!! WTF). This is when I really thought this cycle was a bust and gently told her so...
15dp5dt her hCG was 48!
two days later, today it is 148....
I've never heard of such a late turnaround. (3 blasts put back in an FET)
Needless to say I am totally thrilled.
Never mind her!
I know she's not out of the woods, but really, she's in with a shot now, right?
Laura, I am glad you posted this and not your friend because honestly I read those numbers and my heart sank.

You see, the same thing happened to me with my first De cycle in 2006. My beta at 14dpo was 4, then 9 two days later, then 19 two days after that. I think it actually reached 200 something before it got to the scan part and then we didn't see the heartbeat. My RE in SA was really guarded about the doubling betas because he felt they were still very low for that early stage of pregnancy and I would really never catch up to anything like normal numbers - even though quite frankly I was ecstatic at the rate of doubling because I didn't know any different and obviously wanted it to work so much.

After a few years of reading posts on this board and others I realised that such a low starting beta is never a good sign whatever the rate of doubling. I kicked myself for being so naive because the shock of it not working after so many positive betas - however low - was earth shattering.

So - I don't know what my advice to your friend is - but what I would say to you is be prepared for the worst and to give support when it is needed. Of course, miracles do happen but in all my years of research and gathering information on this matter I have never heard of an initial starting beta of 4 go on to be a viable pregnancy.

I'm so sorry to be so pessimistic.
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Joined: July 23rd, 2008, 6:49 am

March 26th, 2012, 3:15 pm #6

The only way I can see this working out is if the lab made an error in the initial beta tests. There ARE some situations in which the beta was extremely low, caught up speed, and resulted in a healthy baby, but in most cases, it's just more cruelty because it gets one's hopes up and then there's a bad ending.

I hope for the best for her. Though no one is really comforted by this thought, the good thing is that it shows her uterus is doing its job.

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Joined: January 19th, 2007, 7:18 pm

March 26th, 2012, 3:44 pm #7

after beta hell of nearly a week, her numbers are now doubling nicely.
For the record: 11dp5dt her hCG was 4.
13dp5dt her hCG was 6 (SIX!!! WTF). This is when I really thought this cycle was a bust and gently told her so...
15dp5dt her hCG was 48!
two days later, today it is 148....
I've never heard of such a late turnaround. (3 blasts put back in an FET)
Needless to say I am totally thrilled.
Never mind her!
I know she's not out of the woods, but really, she's in with a shot now, right?
In her shoes, which I was in, I would stay cautious & guarded. Unfortunately, betas which are out of range more often end in m/c.

That said, no one can predict who will end up with those unusual low beta success stories.

Here is a reminder of mine. They were unbelievably low, but ds #2 is doing just fine. Mine was a FET with 2 blasts. I will keep your friend in my thoughts.

11dpo 26

13dpo 53

16dpo 39

18dpo 41

20dpo 72

23dpo 179

27dpo 559

30dpo 921

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Joined: January 19th, 2007, 7:18 pm

March 26th, 2012, 3:57 pm #8

which hopefully her doctor will be on top of, is that low or oddly doubling betas can be a sign of ectopic.

Just something to be aware of. I don't know how closely her GP will be following her, but it should be close.

I was monitored closely for this reason. In my case, I'm still a little bitter at my RE b/c his paranoia over this issue led to him pushing a bit for methotrexate before confirming the location of the pg. Thankfully I was NOT on board for that & the doctor I saw through Beer's office said we needed to wait. A week later, the pg. was confirmed in the uterus, although it looked abnormal in shape.

I hope she will have a fantastic tale to tell her baby. Fingers crossed.

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Joined: June 28th, 2008, 7:01 pm

March 26th, 2012, 4:41 pm #9

You know I still love telling your miracle story.

Laura, I am glad that for right now, there is still hope for your friend. Yes, the odds are stacked against her, but at least there is still a chance. And even though it feels like little consolation if it doesn't work out, BBG brought up a great point. Knowing that your body CAN get pg is definitely a step in the right direction.

I will continue to pray that your friend ends up with a miracle baby, much like Ariadne did. And I second making sure she is closely watched for an ectopic pg.

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Joined: January 15th, 2008, 1:22 am

March 26th, 2012, 11:53 pm #10

The only way I can see this working out is if the lab made an error in the initial beta tests. There ARE some situations in which the beta was extremely low, caught up speed, and resulted in a healthy baby, but in most cases, it's just more cruelty because it gets one's hopes up and then there's a bad ending.

I hope for the best for her. Though no one is really comforted by this thought, the good thing is that it shows her uterus is doing its job.
I had a crazy low beta, and little by little it did double. I think it went something like 11, 18, eventually it doubled but had issues from the start. My nurse said she had never seen a "healthy" pregnancy come out of numbers so low. Then we lost the pregnancy, later we did some testing and found genetic issues.

I hope like hell your friend's story turns out better then mine but it was a pretty awful experience, we lost the pregnancy halfway through. After this traumatic experience my dr recommended moving on to DE, I was ready and happy to at this point.

But miracles can happen! I wouldn't mention any of this to her, whatever will be, will be.

Baby Blessings,
Jordee




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