Looking for opinions about how long to put DD in Kindergarten

Looking for opinions about how long to put DD in Kindergarten

Joined: September 26th, 2008, 9:06 pm

July 12th, 2012, 3:15 pm #1

The German system is different. 25 children, aged 3 to 6, are enrolled in one class. They're mostly all there in the mornings, when the more organized 'lessons' take place. The 6-year-olds are taken out for a few hours a week for pre-school lessons. Otherwise, the class is mixed-age. If we want her to eat lunch there, she has to stay until 2:30. Lunch is catered. The bizarre thing for me is that if she DOESN'T eat lunch, she's supposed to be picked up between 12 and 12:15. Lunch is served at 11:30. So the kids that don't eat, play nearby and smell the delicious hot food. (??)

Money isn't a problem. It's dirt cheap here. For every extra 1-2 hours per DAY, we pay an extra 5 ($7) per MONTH. The lunch costs a few dollars a day. I can't remember exactly what. Maybe $3?

The thing is, baby is coming in December. December is cold here. I am happy that DD won't be stuck in the house with me and a baby, but will be active and playing. She starts in September. But should I sign her up for 8 to 2:30? That seems like a long day. Up to now, she's always napped from 1 to 3, so I don't know how that will go. They say the kids who nap can go to another building and get pillows and mats and blankets. I wonder if she's ready to give up her naps and go to bed earlier. When do they do that? She's almost 3. Would I WANT her to? As it is, if she keeps on napping, I'll be able to nap, too, if I can get her and her little brother to sleep at the same time. But if she's going to get any exercise in the afternoons from December to February, it probably won't be with me. I'm pretty good about getting her out during warmer seasons. Today we had kid sports at the gym in the morning and playground for an hour in the afternoon, until the rain started. But winter? No way.

If she doesn't nap and stays until 2:30, she'll come home ready for relaxation and will then go to bed earlier. That doesn't sound too bad, either.

Any ideas from you experienced moms? Should I start trying to cut out naps before September?
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July 12th, 2012, 4:36 pm #2

and went 3 days/week. Next year they'll do 5 days/week. I'd send her the full day until 2:30pm. Mine LOVE it and have so much fun with their friends. I think your DD will really like having something that is all hers, once baby brother arrives . And, 8:30-12:30 may sound like a good break, but with a baby... trust me you are going to want the extra two hours!!

I would not worry about cutting out naps until school starts. I still have mine take a late nap on days when they're totally wiped out, and often on weekends as well - we'll go for a hike and a swim and by then they can't move, so they take a late nap . Still in bed by 8pm latest. So I'd just play that one by ear. My DS really still needs a nap daily, but it's not an option at his school and we LOVE LOVE LOVE the school and enrichment activities they offer from 12:30-2:30, so we're sticking with it and doing late naps as necessary. DD had been trying to drop naps anyway, so it's working well for her.

GL! Hugs,
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July 12th, 2012, 4:51 pm #3

she will love this and she is so smart and sassy, she will thrive at school no doubt. I think it will be important for her to have her own thing and it is good it starts BEFORE baby boy comes so she doesn't associate school w/ new brother and getting me out of the house, etc.

I think she will be fine with the sleep adjustment. My twins are 3.5 and really they DO NOT need a nap. School mandates they have one for 2 (#&$%) hours! Infuriates me but all places are like that until they turn 5, ugh! So on school days they are a pain in the rump to put to sleep. The other days they get no nap or just 30min and by 8pm they are ready for bed and zonk out in minutes. on School days they get up and out of bed many times and we are lucky if they are asleep by 9pm (most nights its close to 9:30. I think they also sleep better on the no nap days. They seem to get up an hour or more earlier on the days right after school and nap. Its a vicious cycle. I think she is ready, she has always been ahead of the curve! Sweet peanut!
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July 12th, 2012, 4:58 pm #4

The German system is different. 25 children, aged 3 to 6, are enrolled in one class. They're mostly all there in the mornings, when the more organized 'lessons' take place. The 6-year-olds are taken out for a few hours a week for pre-school lessons. Otherwise, the class is mixed-age. If we want her to eat lunch there, she has to stay until 2:30. Lunch is catered. The bizarre thing for me is that if she DOESN'T eat lunch, she's supposed to be picked up between 12 and 12:15. Lunch is served at 11:30. So the kids that don't eat, play nearby and smell the delicious hot food. (??)

Money isn't a problem. It's dirt cheap here. For every extra 1-2 hours per DAY, we pay an extra 5 ($7) per MONTH. The lunch costs a few dollars a day. I can't remember exactly what. Maybe $3?

The thing is, baby is coming in December. December is cold here. I am happy that DD won't be stuck in the house with me and a baby, but will be active and playing. She starts in September. But should I sign her up for 8 to 2:30? That seems like a long day. Up to now, she's always napped from 1 to 3, so I don't know how that will go. They say the kids who nap can go to another building and get pillows and mats and blankets. I wonder if she's ready to give up her naps and go to bed earlier. When do they do that? She's almost 3. Would I WANT her to? As it is, if she keeps on napping, I'll be able to nap, too, if I can get her and her little brother to sleep at the same time. But if she's going to get any exercise in the afternoons from December to February, it probably won't be with me. I'm pretty good about getting her out during warmer seasons. Today we had kid sports at the gym in the morning and playground for an hour in the afternoon, until the rain started. But winter? No way.

If she doesn't nap and stays until 2:30, she'll come home ready for relaxation and will then go to bed earlier. That doesn't sound too bad, either.

Any ideas from you experienced moms? Should I start trying to cut out naps before September?
I think you should try the whole day schedule and see how it goes. You are not really asking the kid to give up naps, just change their timing.I bet the sleepy ones who nap do it from 12-2:30 on that schedule so she will shift and adjust to that if she wants to nap.So Babyboat can nap when she needs to, or not.

My kid will be 3 in September and she needs her 2 hour name EVERY day--sometimes if we have been especially active she will sleep 3 hours on the weekends. My kid really appreciated age appropriate toys/games/songs/friends/activities ESPECIALLY when my babies came because the house was overrun with baby toys, baby music, baby activities, baby baby baby stuff that she wasn't to mess with. I could not run after her and play as much because I was recovering from a nasty emergency csection, then feeding a baby or changing a baby or burping/comforting a baby, etc or was just too tired. I also wanted her to have the security of that all day routine at daycare so when the world changed at home (addition of new sibs)she still had predictability and reliability at daycare.I think it helped in the transition.

If you are feeling energetic and rested you can also make the command decision as MOM to pick her up some days at 10 or 11 or 1 or whenever YOU decide. She will have enough of a routine established that a little shift here and there will not tip her boat. You can always scale it back later if it doesn't suit you. You and she have a good relationship as far as communication goes so I think she'll find a way to let you know pretty soon if it isn't working for her.

Having a second kid is exhausting and wonderful. Knowing that your toddler is active and happy and engaged is great peace of mind and might let you rest and adjust to having the new guy (who I am thinking of as a small tugboat, dragging your family into its completed state).I have a picture in my mind of you, your husband, babyboat and a little blank space, bundle sized for the little tugboat coming in December. It is a nice picture
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Joined: September 26th, 2008, 9:06 pm

July 12th, 2012, 6:42 pm #5

I'll almost certainly have to have one. If I do, I already know how disabled I am for the next few weeks. Having her busy and happy will be a relief.

Thanks for the input and also thanks so much for the pretty picture you've painted of my family. We are so dang lucky to be living in this day and age so that this is possible.
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July 12th, 2012, 6:47 pm #6

and went 3 days/week. Next year they'll do 5 days/week. I'd send her the full day until 2:30pm. Mine LOVE it and have so much fun with their friends. I think your DD will really like having something that is all hers, once baby brother arrives . And, 8:30-12:30 may sound like a good break, but with a baby... trust me you are going to want the extra two hours!!

I would not worry about cutting out naps until school starts. I still have mine take a late nap on days when they're totally wiped out, and often on weekends as well - we'll go for a hike and a swim and by then they can't move, so they take a late nap . Still in bed by 8pm latest. So I'd just play that one by ear. My DS really still needs a nap daily, but it's not an option at his school and we LOVE LOVE LOVE the school and enrichment activities they offer from 12:30-2:30, so we're sticking with it and doing late naps as necessary. DD had been trying to drop naps anyway, so it's working well for her.

GL! Hugs,
Kenny

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I know that the first month it will only be until 12:30, but I think you're right that that time will FLY by if it's used catching up on missed sleep or getting the necessary things done. I have no illusions of wearing white silk and sipping tea with my feet in the air and my long, flowing tresses gently blowing in the wind while Baby sleeps peacefully in a Moses basket. Well, not anymore.

In December and January it is DARK here. And cold. Think snowsuits and pulling babies around on sleds when the snow comes. Dragging moaning toddlers in rainclothes the rest of the time. I love my daughter and enjoy spending time with her, but I also realize that tempers can flare QUICKLY if we're all shut in the house for too long, and I know I'll hesitate to take a newborn out too long in the weather we have here.

Thanks so much for the input.
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Joined: September 26th, 2008, 9:06 pm

July 12th, 2012, 6:49 pm #7

she will love this and she is so smart and sassy, she will thrive at school no doubt. I think it will be important for her to have her own thing and it is good it starts BEFORE baby boy comes so she doesn't associate school w/ new brother and getting me out of the house, etc.

I think she will be fine with the sleep adjustment. My twins are 3.5 and really they DO NOT need a nap. School mandates they have one for 2 (#&$%) hours! Infuriates me but all places are like that until they turn 5, ugh! So on school days they are a pain in the rump to put to sleep. The other days they get no nap or just 30min and by 8pm they are ready for bed and zonk out in minutes. on School days they get up and out of bed many times and we are lucky if they are asleep by 9pm (most nights its close to 9:30. I think they also sleep better on the no nap days. They seem to get up an hour or more earlier on the days right after school and nap. Its a vicious cycle. I think she is ready, she has always been ahead of the curve! Sweet peanut!
Got the timing down pat with starting Kindy in September and baby due in December. Babyboat still likes to nap and she'll happily sleep for 2 hours a day but she doesn't then go to bed easily until after 9. I'm hoping that will change if she shortens or gives up the nap.

Thanks for the input.
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Joined: August 7th, 2007, 10:01 pm

July 12th, 2012, 9:13 pm #8

I know that the first month it will only be until 12:30, but I think you're right that that time will FLY by if it's used catching up on missed sleep or getting the necessary things done. I have no illusions of wearing white silk and sipping tea with my feet in the air and my long, flowing tresses gently blowing in the wind while Baby sleeps peacefully in a Moses basket. Well, not anymore.

In December and January it is DARK here. And cold. Think snowsuits and pulling babies around on sleds when the snow comes. Dragging moaning toddlers in rainclothes the rest of the time. I love my daughter and enjoy spending time with her, but I also realize that tempers can flare QUICKLY if we're all shut in the house for too long, and I know I'll hesitate to take a newborn out too long in the weather we have here.

Thanks so much for the input.
I love the gown and blowing tresses comment! I totally picture you out of a Hallmark love story movie on TV! Too cute!
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