For those of you with littlies not growing well...

For those of you with littlies not growing well...

Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 7:45 am

June 14th, 2012, 3:10 am #1

What do you feed them? How do you easily increase caloric intake? Miss Silvi saw the paed yesterday who couldnt find a reason she had fallen off the bottom of the weight chart ( she's below the 3rd percentile line after hovering between 25th and 50th up until she was about eight months old, nine months ago). Her length and head circumference are at 25th and 50th, incidentally.
She is a pretty good eater, I thought, downing eggs, avocado, meat, fish, butter, nuts,rice, spinach brocolli carrots etc with great gusto,
What is Carnation instant breakfast? Dee.s? BT?
We took more b/w (yuck) to check her thyroid in case my thyroxine meds are getting through too much in my breastmilk. Watch this space.
I hated being back in hospital setting big time after older DD's critical heart defect drama, I have to say. Had to come home and drink wine and cry...more PTSD to add to my little cocktail of IVF and earthquakes! Sheesh.
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June 14th, 2012, 5:08 am #2

I'm afraid I don't have any advice for you. I can understand that the accumulation of stress must be overwhelming at times. Children do, as you know, grow in leaps and spurts and surprise us with their development in every way they can. I hope you'll only get good news from here on out.

Carnation instant breakfast is a powder that you mix in milk. It has some added vitamins and minerals. It is very similar to Ovaltine or Ovalmaltine, which is what I make DD's 'Kinder coffee' with every morning. Most of the chocolate milk powders don't have vitamins added, but these do. I think you'll have Ovalmaltine in NZ, but if you don't, just look for other mixtures to add to milk, warm or cold. Some kids do well with the extra calories. My DD isn't always a good breakfast eater but she BEGS for her 'Kinder coffee'.
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June 14th, 2012, 5:40 am #3

What do you feed them? How do you easily increase caloric intake? Miss Silvi saw the paed yesterday who couldnt find a reason she had fallen off the bottom of the weight chart ( she's below the 3rd percentile line after hovering between 25th and 50th up until she was about eight months old, nine months ago). Her length and head circumference are at 25th and 50th, incidentally.
She is a pretty good eater, I thought, downing eggs, avocado, meat, fish, butter, nuts,rice, spinach brocolli carrots etc with great gusto,
What is Carnation instant breakfast? Dee.s? BT?
We took more b/w (yuck) to check her thyroid in case my thyroxine meds are getting through too much in my breastmilk. Watch this space.
I hated being back in hospital setting big time after older DD's critical heart defect drama, I have to say. Had to come home and drink wine and cry...more PTSD to add to my little cocktail of IVF and earthquakes! Sheesh.
The thyroxine in breast milk theory sounds plausible, since she eats so well. Am I remembering correctly that she has trouble sleeping well? I also take thyroxine and have wondered if DD gets much.

If that turns out to be the case I'm sure you would be sad to stop BF but it could solve two problems at once and help you guys get some much needed rest.

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Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 7:45 am

June 14th, 2012, 10:19 am #4

I'm afraid I don't have any advice for you. I can understand that the accumulation of stress must be overwhelming at times. Children do, as you know, grow in leaps and spurts and surprise us with their development in every way they can. I hope you'll only get good news from here on out.

Carnation instant breakfast is a powder that you mix in milk. It has some added vitamins and minerals. It is very similar to Ovaltine or Ovalmaltine, which is what I make DD's 'Kinder coffee' with every morning. Most of the chocolate milk powders don't have vitamins added, but these do. I think you'll have Ovalmaltine in NZ, but if you don't, just look for other mixtures to add to milk, warm or cold. Some kids do well with the extra calories. My DD isn't always a good breakfast eater but she BEGS for her 'Kinder coffee'.
that she was just fine; she appears to be so damn healthy and smart it sometimes worries me that she will outsmart me by the time she's three!
But the doctor seemed far more worried than I was, which of course is a concern.
And if the thyroid needle in the haystack turns up red flags then that would explain a lot about her sleeping. Or not.
Thanks for the info; yes, we do have ovaltine etc here it is just so full of sugar I couldn't really imagine giving it to her.
Though the doc agreed with me when I said "so it will be a diet of icecream and cake for a while then, huh?".
Yikes.
We see a dietician soon but I"m positive she is eating really well compared with other kids her age...
thanks sameboat.
And HUGE congrats on your wee boy; I didn't chime in on that one but had a deep, quiet smile all the way over here for you.
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June 14th, 2012, 10:21 am #5

The thyroxine in breast milk theory sounds plausible, since she eats so well. Am I remembering correctly that she has trouble sleeping well? I also take thyroxine and have wondered if DD gets much.

If that turns out to be the case I'm sure you would be sad to stop BF but it could solve two problems at once and help you guys get some much needed rest.

she is a dreadful sleeper.
I can't imagine weaning her at the moment; she is so so SO committed to my breast! I would rather take less thyroxine.
I suspect I'm also hanging onto breastfeeding cos I enjoy it so much, the closeness, the cuddling; and she may well be our last baby.
But taking less thyroxine is not really a great option either.
I will let you know the b/w results.
Thanks Leeba.
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June 14th, 2012, 10:44 am #6

What do you feed them? How do you easily increase caloric intake? Miss Silvi saw the paed yesterday who couldnt find a reason she had fallen off the bottom of the weight chart ( she's below the 3rd percentile line after hovering between 25th and 50th up until she was about eight months old, nine months ago). Her length and head circumference are at 25th and 50th, incidentally.
She is a pretty good eater, I thought, downing eggs, avocado, meat, fish, butter, nuts,rice, spinach brocolli carrots etc with great gusto,
What is Carnation instant breakfast? Dee.s? BT?
We took more b/w (yuck) to check her thyroid in case my thyroxine meds are getting through too much in my breastmilk. Watch this space.
I hated being back in hospital setting big time after older DD's critical heart defect drama, I have to say. Had to come home and drink wine and cry...more PTSD to add to my little cocktail of IVF and earthquakes! Sheesh.
I am not sure the thyroid meds have any impact on your childs fast metabolism..I believe it would impact if your thyroid is too fast..But that is an idea and I am calling my thyroid doc today to check, as DD is low weight and still wakes several times a night. I have Hashi's and take levoxyl. I also still BF.

DD is still underweight and I give her high fat meats (lamb) nightly..also she gets one avocado per day, high fat yogurt and at one time we had to add a high fat liquid supplement that the ped advised us to give called pediasure..she did not love that but we tried. Carnation has too much sugar but is a good idea. You can also check at your health food store for high fat supplements. I also give her healthy snacks throughout the day..including high fat cheese, creme cheese with whole wheat bread..(for snacks, not meals) and she gets two tablespoons of ice creme daily. We watch the sugar (I bake with agave or brown rice syrup). Everything she eats other than meat, gets a pat of butter on top of it or a teaspoon of olive oil.. Also, banana, peanut butter. I bake cupcakes with creme cheese frosting, which she loves..she gets this once or twice a week. There are many healthy snacks in the health food store, which are loaded with calories, low sugar and low salt. I also grind walnuts and almonds and add it to meatballs and other foods I make her to add the calories.

My ped has helped us tremendously and she has gained over the past year since we switched to this new doctor. She went from the 3% to the 15% in the past few months. Ped also does weight checks every eight weeks..and yesterday, she weighed 25 pounds at 2 years and 3 months. Now that she is older, I take her with me to the supermarket and she can chose one or two snacks herself. She loves doing this and I am surprised that she goes for the good stuff.

I know they become more active as they grow and low weight children need more calories to burn as they start to move around.

The most important thing I have learned is not to get nervous if she does not eat..I was so stressed by this..Now that I am more relaxed, she eats more..children are so smart and sensitive..they pick up all of our stress.

Hugs to you and hope you are safe.
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Joined: December 24th, 2006, 10:22 pm

June 14th, 2012, 1:50 pm #7

What do you feed them? How do you easily increase caloric intake? Miss Silvi saw the paed yesterday who couldnt find a reason she had fallen off the bottom of the weight chart ( she's below the 3rd percentile line after hovering between 25th and 50th up until she was about eight months old, nine months ago). Her length and head circumference are at 25th and 50th, incidentally.
She is a pretty good eater, I thought, downing eggs, avocado, meat, fish, butter, nuts,rice, spinach brocolli carrots etc with great gusto,
What is Carnation instant breakfast? Dee.s? BT?
We took more b/w (yuck) to check her thyroid in case my thyroxine meds are getting through too much in my breastmilk. Watch this space.
I hated being back in hospital setting big time after older DD's critical heart defect drama, I have to say. Had to come home and drink wine and cry...more PTSD to add to my little cocktail of IVF and earthquakes! Sheesh.
I just saw the doctor Monday for my daughters 15 month check up. She is now at 35% for height and weight. (down from 50%) I was concerned, but he asked me if she ate a varied diet. I said yes. The doctor said alot of times up until 18 months, little ones have a hard time eating enough to keep up with their calorie needs. So, you will see the dips.

I am a registered dietitian, and I still wonder if I am feeding my kids right. ha!

I love to make smoothies for myself and I mix it with my daughters milk to give her some extra vitamins. Some days it is a fruit smoothie, some days a protein smoothie. Just depends on what I am fixing. I also try to feed her every 2-3 hours. Even if it is just a snack.

Good luck. I am sure you are doing all the right things!

bookerson



TTC since Sept. 2004
High FSH
DE Feb. 2008
My son was born, October 2008!

2nd DE using frozen embroyos. (7/10) It worked! Due date 3/31/11!
Beautiful daughter born, March 2011
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Joined: July 3rd, 2010, 9:13 pm

June 14th, 2012, 7:24 pm #8

What do you feed them? How do you easily increase caloric intake? Miss Silvi saw the paed yesterday who couldnt find a reason she had fallen off the bottom of the weight chart ( she's below the 3rd percentile line after hovering between 25th and 50th up until she was about eight months old, nine months ago). Her length and head circumference are at 25th and 50th, incidentally.
She is a pretty good eater, I thought, downing eggs, avocado, meat, fish, butter, nuts,rice, spinach brocolli carrots etc with great gusto,
What is Carnation instant breakfast? Dee.s? BT?
We took more b/w (yuck) to check her thyroid in case my thyroxine meds are getting through too much in my breastmilk. Watch this space.
I hated being back in hospital setting big time after older DD's critical heart defect drama, I have to say. Had to come home and drink wine and cry...more PTSD to add to my little cocktail of IVF and earthquakes! Sheesh.
Found yogurt that is very high in protein and fat. We also add oils to his meals, and started adding hemp seed to whatever we can. We add Metagenics Ultracare for Kids to his goat milk (he can only have a little unprocessed cow milk and I don't produce enough milk to bf now). We also add extra cheese to things like mac n cheese. Sorry for ethos...on phone

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Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 7:45 am

June 14th, 2012, 10:16 pm #9

I am not sure the thyroid meds have any impact on your childs fast metabolism..I believe it would impact if your thyroid is too fast..But that is an idea and I am calling my thyroid doc today to check, as DD is low weight and still wakes several times a night. I have Hashi's and take levoxyl. I also still BF.

DD is still underweight and I give her high fat meats (lamb) nightly..also she gets one avocado per day, high fat yogurt and at one time we had to add a high fat liquid supplement that the ped advised us to give called pediasure..she did not love that but we tried. Carnation has too much sugar but is a good idea. You can also check at your health food store for high fat supplements. I also give her healthy snacks throughout the day..including high fat cheese, creme cheese with whole wheat bread..(for snacks, not meals) and she gets two tablespoons of ice creme daily. We watch the sugar (I bake with agave or brown rice syrup). Everything she eats other than meat, gets a pat of butter on top of it or a teaspoon of olive oil.. Also, banana, peanut butter. I bake cupcakes with creme cheese frosting, which she loves..she gets this once or twice a week. There are many healthy snacks in the health food store, which are loaded with calories, low sugar and low salt. I also grind walnuts and almonds and add it to meatballs and other foods I make her to add the calories.

My ped has helped us tremendously and she has gained over the past year since we switched to this new doctor. She went from the 3% to the 15% in the past few months. Ped also does weight checks every eight weeks..and yesterday, she weighed 25 pounds at 2 years and 3 months. Now that she is older, I take her with me to the supermarket and she can chose one or two snacks herself. She loves doing this and I am surprised that she goes for the good stuff.

I know they become more active as they grow and low weight children need more calories to burn as they start to move around.

The most important thing I have learned is not to get nervous if she does not eat..I was so stressed by this..Now that I am more relaxed, she eats more..children are so smart and sensitive..they pick up all of our stress.

Hugs to you and hope you are safe.
I will try adding more cream cheese to my shopping list. She ears butter hand over little fist! I would not be so worried had she not crossed so many lines on the damn graph; I'm not worried about her being little per se, rather that she may have some problem that is inhibiting the absorption of her nutrients...
Good to hear you have made progress on this diet. I will up the avocados as well which she loves...
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Joined: June 2nd, 2007, 7:45 am

June 14th, 2012, 10:20 pm #10

I just saw the doctor Monday for my daughters 15 month check up. She is now at 35% for height and weight. (down from 50%) I was concerned, but he asked me if she ate a varied diet. I said yes. The doctor said alot of times up until 18 months, little ones have a hard time eating enough to keep up with their calorie needs. So, you will see the dips.

I am a registered dietitian, and I still wonder if I am feeding my kids right. ha!

I love to make smoothies for myself and I mix it with my daughters milk to give her some extra vitamins. Some days it is a fruit smoothie, some days a protein smoothie. Just depends on what I am fixing. I also try to feed her every 2-3 hours. Even if it is just a snack.

Good luck. I am sure you are doing all the right things!

bookerson



TTC since Sept. 2004
High FSH
DE Feb. 2008
My son was born, October 2008!

2nd DE using frozen embroyos. (7/10) It worked! Due date 3/31/11!
Beautiful daughter born, March 2011
Its just that S has dipped from above 25th to below the 3rd which is a big drop. Concerned there may be some problem with her ability to absorb nutrients. I hope it's nothing, I really do but the doc was waaay more concerned than I had expected...
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