The Immigration Scam

The Immigration Scam

onebornfree
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November 1st, 2017, 12:42 pm #1

"The Immigration Scam" by Harry Browne:

"....Arguments about immigration will always be with us. But it’s important to understand that the real issue isn’t freedom for immigrants – it’s your freedom.

Immigrants will continue to stream into this country, legally or illegally, so long as there’s a Welcome Wagon waiting at the border – offering free education, free health care, free welfare and a free lunch. We need to put the Welcome Wagon out of business, so only people looking for freedom will want to come here.

Until then, no law, no policy, no border patrol will stop the flood of illegals.

Whose freedom is at stake?:

Meanwhile, new laws to limit immigration will affect you considerably. You may think those laws will keep America pure, but they will succeed only in taking more of your liberty.

Think about it. How will the government root out people who are in this country illegally? By checking their papers, of course.

But how do they know whose papers to check? They don’t. So they’ll have to check everyone’s papers – including yours.

That means more invasions of your privacy, higher taxes, more corruption in law enforcement. The police will be allowed to stop you at will and ask for your identity card – and to search your property without a warrant, checking your car or home to see if you’re harboring illegals. Your employer will have to take more of the money available for wages and divert it to filling out forms and complying with bureaucratic inspections. The red tape also will add to the prices of the things you buy.

And all the while, the people you thought you were keeping out will continue to show up to tend your yard and wash dishes at the local restaurants.......":

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January 7th, 2018, 10:22 am #2

The immigration restriction delusions of Stefan Molyneux:



First of all, one cannot have a debate about anything without a 3rd person neutral moderator, which makes this particular debate a sham.

However, this fake debate does, once again handily expose the fantastical delusions of one Stefan Molyneux, who appears to not only host fake debates, but to also be a fake voluntaryist/anarchist.

Brief psychological analysis: Mr. Molyneux, [like most in this world], suffers from an acute case of "Dictator Syndrome" [basically, the idea that government can work/achieve worthwhile social goals]. This syndrome is based on many false assumptions about governments and how laws are actually made in the real world.

See: "You,Trump,Sanders Etc., Vs "Dictator Syndrome": http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... drome.html

Also, because of the government welfare programs already in place in the US, building walls , restricting immigration etc. will _not_ actually prevent or restrict illegal immigration long-term. All this would achieve is to reduce the freedoms of US citizens, who would be forced to provide more ID to local, state and federal law enforcement. The illegals would keep on coming.

See first post[above] of this thread or :"The Immigration Scam- by Harry Browne": http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... rowne.html

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January 22nd, 2018, 1:04 pm #3

Here we go:

"Congress Quietly Pushing Bill To Require National Biometric ID For “ALL Americans”:

"Earlier this month, Rep. Bob Goodlatte [R-VA-6] introduced H.R.4760 – Securing America’s Future Act of 2018, a sweeping bill that entails everything from Education and the Workforce to Homeland Security to the military. Also, tucked away in this 400-page behemoth of a bill are the details of a new biometric National ID card that could soon be required for everyone.

Not surprisingly, there is almost no media coverage on this legislation.

H.R. 4760 establishes a mandatory National Identification system that requires all Americans to carry a government-approved ID containing “biometric features.” Without this card, according to the legislation, you will not be able to work in this country.........":
https://www.activistpost.com/2018/01/co ... icans.html

[ As Harry Browne has stated : " Think about it. How will the government root out people who are in this country illegally? By checking their papers, of course.But how do they know whose papers to check? They don’t. So they’ll have to check everyone’s papers – including yours. That means more invasions of your privacy, higher taxes, more corruption in law enforcement. The police will be allowed to stop you at will and ask for your identity card – and to search your property without a warrant, checking your car or home to see if you’re harboring illegals. Your employer will have to take more of the money available for wages and divert it to filling out forms and complying with bureaucratic inspections. The red tape also will add to the prices of the things you buy.

And all the while, the people you thought you were keeping out will continue to show up to tend your yard and wash dishes at the local restaurants......." : http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... rowne.html ].

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January 25th, 2018, 8:36 am #4

"Things Are Getting Worse, Not Better: Round Ups, Checkpoints, & National ID Cards":

"....With the government empowered to carry out transportation checks to question people about their immigration status within a 100-mile border zone that wraps around the country, you’re going to see a rise in these “show your papers” incidents.

That’s a problem, and I’ll tell you why.

We are not supposed to be living in a “show me your papers” society.

Despite this, the U.S. government has recently introduced measures allowing police and other law enforcement officials to stop individuals (citizens and noncitizens alike), demand they identify themselves, and subject them to patdowns, warrantless searches, and interrogations.

These actions fly in the face of longstanding constitutional safeguards forbidding such police state tactics.

Set aside the debate over illegal immigration for a moment and think long and hard about what it means when government agents start demanding that people show their papers on penalty of arrest.

The problem with allowing government agents to demand identification from anyone they suspect might be an illegal immigrant—the current scheme being employed by the Trump administration to ferret out and cleanse the country of illegal immigrants—is that it lays the groundwork for a society in which you are required to identify yourself to any government worker who demands it.

Such tactics quickly lead one down a slippery slope that ends with government agents empowered to subject anyone—citizen and noncitizen alike—to increasingly intrusive demands that they prove not only that they are legally in the country, but also that they are in compliance with every statute and regulation on the books.

This flies in the face of the provisions of the Fourth Amendment, which protects the American people from undue government interference with their movement and from baseless interrogation about their identities or activities. The Rutherford Institute has issued a Constitutional Q&A on “The Legality of Stop and ID Procedures” that provides some guidance on one’s rights if stopped and asked by police to show identification.

Unfortunately, even with legal protections on the books, it’s becoming increasingly difficult for the average American to avoid falling in line with a national identification system....":
https://rutherford.org/publications_res ... d_national

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February 9th, 2018, 11:57 pm #5

"Take the 'Racist Xenophobe' Quiz: Who Said This About Illegal Immigration?":

"Which alleged "racist xenophobe" made these statements about illegal immigration?

"Those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law, and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law. We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented (and) unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants in this country."

A) Adolf Hitler

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Then-Sen. Obama, news conference, 2005

"Our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens."

A) Joseph Stalin

B) Donald Trump

C) Bill Clinton

Answer: President Clinton, State of the Union address, 1995

"If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough, how about offering an award to be an illegal immigrant. No sane country would do that, right? Guess again."

A) Jack the Ripper

B) Donald Trump

C) Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Answer: Reid, Senate floor, 1993

"In approaching immigration reform, I believe we must enact tough, practical reforms that ensure and promote the legal and orderly entry of immigrants into our country."

A) Idi Amin

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Sen. Obama, Senate floor, 2007

"We all agree on the need to better secure the border, and to punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants."

A) Pol Pot

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Sen. Obama, 2005

"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public services they use impose burdens on our taxpayers."

A) Michael Myers

B) Donald Trump

C) Bill Clinton

Answer: President Clinton, State of the Union address, 1995

"We will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace."

A) Jeffrey Dahmer

B) Donald Trump

C) Bill Clinton

Answer: President Clinton, State of the Union address, 1995

"I continue to believe that we need stronger enforcement on the border and at the workplace. And that means a workable mandatory system that employers must use to verify the legality of their workers."

A) Kim Jong Un

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Sen. Obama, Senate floor, 2007

"If you break our laws by entering this country without permission and give birth to a child, we reward that child with U.S. citizenship and guarantee full access to all public and social services this society provides — and that's a lot of services. Is it any wonder that two-thirds of babies born at taxpayer expense (in) county-run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?"

A) Kim Kardashian

B) Donald Trump

C) Harry Reid

Answer: Sen. Reid, Senate floor, 1993

"We need to start by giving agencies charged with border security new technology, new facilities and more people to stop, process and deport illegal immigrants."

A) Rasputin

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Sen. Barack Obama, 2005

"Right now we've got millions of illegal immigrants who live and work here without knowing their identity or background."

A) Freddy Krueger

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Sen. Obama, 2005

"We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."

A) Vlad the Impaler

B) Donald Trump

C) Bill Clinton

Answer: President Clinton, State of the Union address,1995

"Let me repeat: We need strong border security at the borders."

A) Hassan Nasrallah

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: Barack Obama, 2005

"If only everyone (in the Middle East) could be like Scandinavians, (achieving peace) would all be easy."

A) Al Capone

B) Donald Trump

C) Barack Obama

Answer: President Obama, 2016

"There are too many (migrants) now. ... Europe, for example, Germany, cannot become an Arab country. Germany is Germany. ... From a moral point of view, too, I think refugees should only be admitted temporarily."

A) Joseph Goebbels

B) Donald Trump

C) Dalai Llama

Answer: Dalai Llama, 2016

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February 13th, 2018, 5:31 pm #6

"In addition to funding for a border wall and other border security measures, immigration hardliners are sure to push to include mandatory E-Verify in any immigration legislation considered by Congress. E-Verify is a (currently) voluntary program where businesses check job applicants’ Social Security numbers and other Information — potentially including “biometric” identifiers like fingerprints — against information stored in a federal database to determine if the job applicants are legally in the United States.....":

E-Verify Threatens Us All: https://mises.org/wire/e-verify-threatens-us-all-0

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April 7th, 2018, 1:08 pm #7

"Arizona and Texas will be sending 400 National Guard members to the southern border in response to President Donald Trump's Wednesday Executive Order directing the troops to "assist the border patrol" in guarding the nation's existing border fence - and of course the many miles of completely unprotected crossing zones. ....":

Texas National Guard Deploying To Border Within 72 Hours; DOJ Enacts "Zero Tolerance" Policy
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... -tolerance

"....Immigrants will continue to stream into this country, legally or illegally, so long as there’s a Welcome Wagon waiting at the border – offering free education, free health care, free welfare and a free lunch. We need to put the Welcome Wagon out of business, so only people looking for freedom will want to come here.

Until then, no law, no policy, no border patrol will stop the flood of illegals.

Whose freedom is at stake? ....... new laws to limit immigration will affect you considerably............Think about it. How will the government root out people who are in this country illegally? By checking their papers, of course. But how do they know whose papers to check? They don’t. So they’ll have to check everyone’s papers – including yours.That means more invasions of your privacy, higher taxes, more corruption in law enforcement.....":

see: The Immigration Scam:
http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... rowne.html

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