"The Immigration Scam" by Harry Browne:
"....Arguments about immigration will always be with us. But it’s important to understand that the real issue isn’t freedom for immigrants – it’s your freedom.
Immigrants will continue to stream into this country, legally or illegally, so long as there’s a Welcome Wagon waiting at the border – offering free education, free health care, free welfare and a free lunch. We need to put the Welcome Wagon out of business, so only people looking for freedom will want to come here.
Until then, no law, no policy, no border patrol will stop the flood of illegals.
Whose freedom is at stake?:
Meanwhile, new laws to limit immigration will affect you considerably. You may think those laws will keep America pure, but they will succeed only in taking more of your liberty.
Think about it. How will the government root out people who are in this country illegally? By checking their papers, of course.
But how do they know whose papers to check? They don’t. So they’ll have to check everyone’s papers – including yours.
That means more invasions of your privacy, higher taxes, more corruption in law enforcement. The police will be allowed to stop you at will and ask for your identity card – and to search your property without a warrant, checking your car or home to see if you’re harboring illegals. Your employer will have to take more of the money available for wages and divert it to filling out forms and complying with bureaucratic inspections. The red tape also will add to the prices of the things you buy.
And all the while, the people you thought you were keeping out will continue to show up to tend your yard and wash dishes at the local restaurants.......":
See: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... rowne.html
The immigration restriction delusions of Stefan Molyneux:
First of all, one cannot have a debate about anything without a 3rd person neutral moderator, which makes this particular debate a sham.
However, this fake debate does, once again handily expose the fantastical delusions of one Stefan Molyneux, who appears to not only host fake debates, but to also be a fake voluntaryist/anarchist.
Brief psychological analysis: Mr. Molyneux, [like most in this world], suffers from an acute case of "Dictator Syndrome" [basically, the idea that government can work/achieve worthwhile social goals]. This syndrome is based on many false assumptions about governments and how laws are actually made in the real world.
See: "You,Trump,Sanders Etc., Vs "Dictator Syndrome": http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... drome.html
Also, because of the government welfare programs already in place in the US, building walls , restricting immigration etc. will _not_ actually prevent or restrict illegal immigration long-term. All this would achieve is to reduce the freedoms of US citizens, who would be forced to provide more ID to local, state and federal law enforcement. The illegals would keep on coming.
See first post[above] of this thread or :"The Immigration Scam- by Harry Browne": http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot ... rowne.html