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July 17th, 2017, 12:33 pm #21

"Brain-computer hookup equals mainstream news-The fatal flaw in the human-computer interface":

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July 17th, 2017, 5:04 pm #22

@Clayton, thanks for the explanation. I am not sure I fully grasp it, but I think the worker analogy helps bring to bear their potential. I think what is difficult to understand is the stochastic (vs deterministic) computation that you mention, which in turn requires an understanding of the qubits. Is there any background reading you can recommend on the topic? It's one area I consider to be lacking in my current knowledge base.
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July 17th, 2017, 9:22 pm #23

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@Clayton, thanks for the explanation. I am not sure I fully grasp it, but I think the worker analogy helps bring to bear their potential. I think what is difficult to understand is the stochastic (vs deterministic) computation that you mention, which in turn requires an understanding of the qubits. Is there any background reading you can recommend on the topic? It's one area I consider to be lacking in my current knowledge base.
I'll see what I can dig up.

I'll give a brief explanation of what makes qubits different from classical bits. I am not a quantum physicist, so this is like notes from a guerrilla-warfare manual on quantum physics. A classical bit always has a definite state - definitely '0' or definitely '1' - even when we're not observing it. When we observe a classical bit, we are measuring this definite state. From a physics-perspective, the classical bit has a definite state precisely because it consists of many classical particles, all of which are sharing a common state. This state could be encoded mechanically (up/down), magnetically (north/south), voltaically (positive/negative voltage), and so on. There is always some error in measurement, however, so even a classical bit is best described with a probability distribution where the probability of an erroneous reading is extremely small - in modern CPU integrated circuits, it's probably less than 1 in a trillion, though it will vary significantly from one process technology to another.

The description of a classical bit is basically the same as a single qubit in isolation, when we measure it. When we measure it, its state is either definitely '0' or definitely '1'. The difference is in the error margin which is many orders of magnitude higher for a qubit than a classical bit. Partly, this results from the fact that a qubit really is a single quantum particle, whereas a classical bit consists of countless particles, all sharing the same state. It is true that - when we are not measuring it - the isolated qubit can exist in a "superposition' of the '0' state and '1' state but this only affects the shape of the probability distribution of the particle's measured state over multiple measurements - it does not alter the definiteness of the output state, nor does it alter the fundamental probability of error (measuring a '0' when the qubit's true state was '1', and vice-versa... this is called "measurement error" or "detector error").

In summary - in the case of a single qubit in isolation - there really is no mathematical difference between a qubit and a classical bit, it's just that the error margin in a classical bit is so low that we can ignore the mathematics of measurement errors in classical bits. As far as I understand QM, if we had a very noisy classical bit (high probability of measuring a '0' when the bit was actually '1' and vice-versa), the mathematics describing the behavior of the classical bit over multiple measurements would be exactly the same as the mathematics of the qubit.

When you have two or more qubits, things get more complicated. The superposition of multiple qubits gives them a probability distribution over the entire space that the qubits can encode. For example, suppose we have qubit A and qubit B. Their measured states can take on the following values:

A=0; B=0
A=0; B=1
A=1; B=0
A=1; B=1

Let us assign a unique label to each of these measurements:

W = { A=0; B=0 }
X = { A=0; B=1 }
Y = { A=1; B=0 }
Z = { A=1; B=1 }

Superposition allows the qubits to occupy any probability distribution over all four combined states, {W, X, Y, Z}. For example, we could have a distribution that looks like { W=0.5, X=0.25; Y=0.25, Z=0 }. This distribution is the state of the quantum system - arising from superposition - but the only way to measure it is to measure A and B a bunch of times and count how many times we get W, X, Y and Z, respectively.

Hopefully that didn't muddy things up for you.
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July 18th, 2017, 8:20 pm #24

Jon Irenicus wrote:
July 17th, 2017, 5:04 pm
@Clayton, thanks for the explanation. I am not sure I fully grasp it, but I think the worker analogy helps bring to bear their potential. I think what is difficult to understand is the stochastic (vs deterministic) computation that you mention, which in turn requires an understanding of the qubits. Is there any background reading you can recommend on the topic? It's one area I consider to be lacking in my current knowledge base.
Update: Been reading this (large PDF) and overall I recommend it - I'm comprehending the bulk of what I've read, which is saying something... QM-related materials are not known for their comprehensibility. Yes, I largely blame the theorists because they often skip steps that are non-obvious to anyone but an expert.


The subtleties of QM become more pronounced as you consider larger Quantum Computation systems, and this text does a pretty good job building up from fundamentals. I plan another update with some refinements of my last post which, in its current state, would probably horrify anyone with expertise in quantum physics.
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July 19th, 2017, 7:06 am #25

Thanks it makes more sense now. I think to really grasp it I'll need to get to grips with the basics of quantum mechanics, to understand why the qubits behave in this manner to begin with. I'll give the link a look.
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"Guardian: "Face-Reading AI Will be Able to Detect Your Politics and IQ, Professor Says"":

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September 15th, 2017, 11:42 am #28

Brave New World, here we come. :P The scope for abuse with this kind of tech, given the existence of the state and those companies in bed with it, is tremendous.
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September 15th, 2017, 2:25 pm #29

I don't get it. Apple says that its Facial ID is all on the phone and nothing's gets sent to Apple's nor anyone else's servers. So, the memes don't make any sense, at least with regards to Apple.

Besides, the DMV and/or the feds already have your photo and fingerprints from when you got a driver's license and/or passport. And some foreign governments also require that you give them your fingerprints when you enter their country. So, what's the big deal?
Roy: Hello? IT. Have you tried turning it on and off again?
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September 15th, 2017, 3:15 pm #30

Frankly, Apple can claim whatever it likes. It isn't impervious to the information being intercepted or building backdoors into its products at the behest of the government that most users aren't capable of even identifying. Live data feeds are certainly more useful than information sitting in some warehouse, whether it be on a hard disk or not.

But that's neither here nor there; it is the ways in which these images are being interpreted, presumably off the basis of correlates more than anything else, to infer all manner of things about the person pictured, which some governments will abuse given the opportunity. 
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November 19th, 2017, 6:51 am #31

"New Artificial Intelligence Designed to Be Mentally Unstable: What Could Go Wrong?"

"...one company has created an artificially intelligent machine-learning system that suffers from mental instability, or the AI equivalent, and the creators deliberately designed it to be unstable.

This tortured artist of an AI is called DABUS, short for “device for the autonomous bootstrapping of unified Sentience.”....":
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December 31st, 2017, 1:10 pm #34

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"window to act" 🙄

People worry about these kinds of AI scenarios but their worries are almost completely misguided. These kinds of devices will be deployed and used by nation states, not paramilitary groups. Each individual bot - once developed - will have negligible cost to build and deploy, but the initial R&D and manufacturing roll-out will be in the billions. At first, nation-states will attempt to use these weapons in aggressive applications but will find that they create a massive defensive advantage (a similar situation happened in WWI after the development of the machine-gun gave the defender a massive advantage over attackers). Later, they will deploy them domestically to buttress social control measures.

What people should be thinking about is how AI can manipulate the social fabric through indirect measures - autonomous botnets engaging in psychological and social manipulation of individuals and, eventually, entire populations. This danger is more imminent because it is cheaper and easier to deploy, faster in its effects, and attacks the human population without engendering resistance. A sufficiently advanced AI could do this surreptitiously right under the noses of the people who are developing it. Its tentacles could reach arbitrarily far into the halls of power, mooting every defense measure before it can be brought to bear (e.g. "pull the plug", "cut the cables", "nuke 'em all", "trigger an EMP", etc.)
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February 7th, 2018, 11:37 am #35

"Peter Thiel: "Crypto Is Libertarian, AI Is Communist"":

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July 18th, 2018, 8:29 am #36

“Oh Doctor, what’s ailing me? Can I get a diagnosis? What’s that? AI [artificial intelligence] is handling it now? You mean I just go online and see the results of my tests and read the diagnosis and pick up my drugs outside my front door? Wow. Very nice.”

Really? Is it very nice?

As AI creeps and crawls into the realm of medical diagnosis and treatment, and as it spreads under the banner of “more precise care for the patient,” remember that AI embeds false data more firmly than any human doctor can. Once it’s in there, how do you get rid of it?

“I’m sorry, sir. There is no human to speak with. All our data are produced by algorithms…” ....":

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August 17th, 2018, 7:54 am #37

"Futurists are inclined to predict a world in which AI (artificial intelligence) will take over a major portion of what is now human activity.

In a matter of decades, for example, they say one computer will have more capacity than all the human brains on the planet put together.

Then, the prediction goes, AI will be virtually human, or more than human.

However, just because AI has greater computational skills than any person or group of persons, where is the quality that makes it human?

In order to answer that, you have to perform a little trick. You have to downgrade your assessment of humans. You have to say that humans are really only high-class machines. ...":

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September 19th, 2018, 6:34 am #38

"Automation seems to be a never-ending source of fear-mongering. Judging from the commentary, robots will “replace us” and cause large-scale unemployment. With the entry of artificial intelligence (AI), and robots that make robots, the value of human beings as productive forces in the economy is simply zero. People then become value-less consumers, only “mouths to feed” while production is carried out by machines.

And, the story goes, whoever first comes up with a robot that creates robots, and robots that fix themselves, will outcompete everyone else and soon own all means of production. The destiny of our innovative species is to become fundamentally dependent on that one capital owner, who by controlling all production controls all of us.

Engineering, not Economics

The problem is that this dystopian outlook is fundamentally flawed. And, as usual, it is reasoning based on economic illiteracy. Rather than an economic organism, the market economy is seen through the eyes of an engineer. In other words, it is seemingly economic reasoning based on a fundamental misunderstanding of economy – the view that production is about technology and engineering, about maximizing “output,” and not about the economizing of means to attain valued ends........":

No, Robots Cannot Replace Us: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/09/no_ ... eplace-us/

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